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Nalod
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Wilcox was heralded around here as the next great thing, and he was the one most were yelling abou with the 7th pick. Denver passed on Amare twice!, and took Skita with one of those picks, and camby was practically finished here.
Chaney did over achieve with what he had. Isiah pulled the rug from under him and flat out lied when he told him he was there to "help". He undermined him at every turn, and humiliated him on letterman.
I believe that Laydens team would not be the same right now as it was the moment he left. There are many many things that could have happened. IN a way, Dolan starphucked himself with Isiah and wanted a big splash. I think Isiah took a detour to try to be the miricle man but failed with a gazy group. I think Laydog was on the right track and could have blown it up. Remember he was handed a big damm mess himself. Taking on big contracts as he did, he did with overpriced role players that he either signed or traded for. Isiah has done the same thing with Mo. t, anfernee, TT, Vin, and Craw. Very similar moves thus far. Craw has upside, but so did Eisely and Shandon AT THE TIME.
IM not here to defend Layden, nor bash Isiah, but there are many similarities thus far. The difference, and the reason I believe Isiah was bought in over Layden was Layden lost too much credibilty with stressful trade proposals and the media was jumping on him. He lost cred with the fans, and was an introvert. Isiah has a carasmatic side which covers some lack of substance. I rooted for Laydog to succeed, and I root for Isiah to do the same.
I plead with both to not starphuch!
Big Pimp, nice take man, great effort and great points! To add on some of it, its important that we not just be better than laydens teams, or that herb is better than Lenny. Those were qualified disasters and we are not improving. THis team, this talent is 10 games less in the win colum with 12 to go. Since I doubt we go 10-2 to at least equal it, I would have to say this season was a disaster. Sure Allan would have helped, and Isiah did the right thing by getting Crawford to fill in, but Jamal really never got better. In fact, he verbally says he is lost and does not know what is expected of him. Blame, well its starts at the top, then the coaches, and the players. Injuries happen, and Allan's lack of contribution is no suprise. We went to plan b, but plan b sucked. We blew out Shandon like it was his fault. We are paying his salary and got nothing in return.
Vin was a low price low risk and I think Isiah did a good thing, but it did not work. Obviously, Reezy was a stroke of luck, and not trading KT (YET)was a good thing!
I think we must look at the next two years as a chess game. If we cannot envision the subsequent moves then its foolish to speculate on what we can't even see. We got a tough road ahead, we just can't younger and more atletic than Laydens old teams, but we must get good young players. This is not an easy thing. We think its easy to rid of some players and just bank on potential of some "Name" brand player. But these guys take time, or bust. Even NENE has yet to fully contribute and is playing behind Camby! Wilcox has not lived up to his billing, and for that matter, neither has Yao! In retrospect, I don't know what we were offering the rockets, but the combinations of assets might have yielded them a better return than what Yao has done. Hind sight is great! Lord knows we chuckled about what the suns took from us but they executed a plan and are legit now. ITs about clearing enough space to execute a plan.
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Denver was headed to the lottery until a coaching change was made, too. And Utah will have a better shot at getting Bogut than the Knicks.
3/31/2005 1:16 PM