Posted by fishmike:

its a tough one. Our need for a bigman is paramount, but our need for a cant miss player is pretty high too. I'm VERY VERY high on Danny Granger. He's a cant miss senior that does everything. Bonafide NBA body. 19/9 to go with 2 blocks, 2 assists, 2 steals. Can play both forward spots. Reminds me of Al Harrington only meaner.

Posted by gunsnewing:

but what 7Ft+ foreign center other than Yao who was a clear cut #1 pick and Illgaukus & Nene who are good but not great panned out?

Every other one who was drafted is either a stiff like the 7'5 Pavel Podkslin or an okay player like a Nesterovic who we could easily use the MLE on while using our pick to on a real impact star player like a Wade, McGrady, Amare etc. I rather take a chance on a guy like that. Like a Green, mcCants or Taft and then draft one of these big guys to contribute. And if the Knicks feel they are years away then use the MLE on a Center. Or use the MLE on Joel Prysbilla next year.

It can potentially be a lot more rewarding then drafting a bust like Tskisivili, Alejandro Radoslavic, Pavel and giving the MLE to a marginal player like Simmons. i rather take my chances on finding Wade, McGrady, Amare player, pierce like player.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/28/2005 15:47:55]

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

but what 7Ft+ foreign center other than Yao who was a clear cut #1 pick and Illgaukus & Nene who are good but not great panned out?

Every other one who was drafted is either a stiff like the 7'5 Pavel Podkslin or an okay player like a Nesterovic who we could easily use the MLE on while using our pick to on a real impact star player like a Wade, McGrady, Amare etc. I rather take a chance on a guy like that. Like a Green, mcCants or Taft and then draft one of these big guys to contribute. And if the Knicks feel they are years away then use the MLE on a Center. Or use the MLE on Joel Prysbilla next year.

It can potentially be a lot more rewarding then drafting a bust like Tskisivili, Alejandro Radoslavic, Pavel and giving the MLE to a marginal player like Simmons. i rather take my chances on finding Wade, McGrady, Amare player, pierce like player.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/28/2005 15:47:55]

when you say skita or pavel, there is no body of work that we can look at--i never found it--still mark eaton was a 7-4 auto mechanic and he became a dam good basketball player right? you just cant teach size


what stuck out about Martynas, to me was the rebounding stat. notice, many 7 footers cannot rebound well,simply because they cant move well, some can, but some cant. this guy was the leading rebounder by a wide margin and averaged 4 block shots. and look at the cats he was playing against--all high caliber euro prospects yes its the hS level, but nonetheless its very impressive.

someone said joel pryzbila, I ll tell you what, Milwaukee shouldve waited that out soem more, they only WISH they had him back.

Posted by JUNKMEIN:

The whole thing is a crap shoot. We can't guarantee that anyone is a lock to be a star (even if they're so called automatic lottery material). No one would have stated that Wade was an automatic lock to be an Allstar before he was drafted. However, he was drafted high and that's because someone in a decision making position thought enough of the physical tools he displayed to make a call. Who that we've seen that will be picked in the first 7 choices in this years draft can we guarantee that they'll become a perenial allstar? Bogut, who else...okay who else that we'd bank the franchise on? Imho, 7'0", 240, 19years old and moving like that.....Shhhhhhhhhhh. It's a no brainer even if he becomes a bust. it's a game, not life and death and if Isiah sinks over this i'm sure he'll still be able to live comfortably. PETRO, do it.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by gunsnewing:

but what 7Ft+ foreign center other than Yao who was a clear cut #1 pick and Illgaukus & Nene who are good but not great panned out?

Every other one who was drafted is either a stiff like the 7'5 Pavel Podkslin or an okay player like a Nesterovic who we could easily use the MLE on while using our pick to on a real impact star player like a Wade, McGrady, Amare etc. I rather take a chance on a guy like that. Like a Green, mcCants or Taft and then draft one of these big guys to contribute. And if the Knicks feel they are years away then use the MLE on a Center. Or use the MLE on Joel Prysbilla next year.

It can potentially be a lot more rewarding then drafting a bust like Tskisivili, Alejandro Radoslavic, Pavel and giving the MLE to a marginal player like Simmons. i rather take my chances on finding Wade, McGrady, Amare player, pierce like player.



[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/28/2005 15:47:55]

What rules the nBA? What has always ruled the nBA? the BIG man. I think yao is actually a little too big, and this would be the first time I ever made a pick not even seeing the guy, i always like to watch someone or atleast a clip so I get a sense. But to get back to my point, I would bring in mA and look at him very very hard. Bogut was firs found out by his participation in the euro 18> tourney. Of course for a lot of these guys, even Bogut, there is going to be stepping stones. But this guy just dominated against so many so-called future euro 1s. If they brought him in and he glitched, if something was just not right--and wed put him through game type workout, then I would look very closely at moving down for Petro. Its close, but I cant pass on that kid.

Big, little, and everything in between players can rule the NBA. We saw Jordan, Bird, Magic, and Isiah dominate. The Pistons last year didn't have a superstar big either. That already accounts for about half the championship teams over the last 2 decades with their star being either a guard or an SF

Posted by gunsnewing:

as of today, as in before draft camp i will be thrilled with green, mcCants or Taft with our 1st pick. It comes down to who really impresses Isiah in camp.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/28/2005 19:02:00]