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simrud
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3/27/2005  12:40 AM
I know I'v blaimed Marbury, the coach, the GM and whatnot for it all on many an ocasion, but after today's game, I'v gotta say, maybe this is just the way it is.

Every shot the Blazers made today in the 4th quarter was a lucky one, same last night in Seattle.

TT did his best Charles Smith impersonation. After being awesome for the entire game.

I don't think you can place the blaim on any one person in this franchise anymore, it just seems like things simply don't work out.

Even the Dyess trade could have been good, he was 28 and an allstar, and he busted his other leg.

I'm gonna oficially accept the fact that we suck, and not expect anything good, cause there is no way around it.

I'm not even gonna blame IT anymore, cause non of his moves should have made it this bad, as many mistakes as he made, it still doesn not explain it all away.

Even Patrick missed the fingeroll, and you can't hate him.
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3/27/2005  12:44 AM
Dude! if the Wiz can have a good team, soon or later, the Knicks will be good also....It is all a matter of time....Remember, Miami went through the same thing, LA will be going through it too. That is just the way the ball bounces. Keep your headup my friend, it will get better some day.
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gunsnewing
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3/27/2005  12:46 AM
i agree we are cursed but imo there is one constant reason why we have a losing season ever year and can't win 40 games. ever since this individual has become the best bigman on the team by default(since ewing & camby left) and would never start on a team that actually wins 40+ games.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/27/2005 00:51:05]
simrud
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3/27/2005  12:52 AM
I think your opinion of KT is being affected by the fact that he is playing hurt right now.

But that aside, he is not a good starter for this team, for a team witha lowpost option, and guys who don't settle for jumpers, he woudl be ok.

For us, we can't afford more guys to settle for jays. The main problem with KT is also the fact that it seems there is not a 18 foot jumper he doesnt like anymore. He has gotten a little to confident in his "offensive game" at this point.

He is also super uncluth. So was Oak, he'd score in the first quarter only, the big difference is that we never let him shoot past the 1st quarter and let alone in the 4th.

If you use KT right, he would a solid starter/bench player. But we totally misuse him, due to the general lack of talent on the roster.
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3/27/2005  12:57 AM
As much as I know that any hope for the team is in the draft, I found myself rooting for them to just crush Seattle last night. But the Ray Allen prayer went in. Oh well. Lottery time. We need to come away with Taft or Green.
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3/27/2005  12:57 AM
Please don't tell me that you are advocating that we keep Kurt in N.Y
Posted by simrud:

I think your opinion of KT is being affected by the fact that he is playing hurt right now.

But that aside, he is not a good starter for this team, for a team witha lowpost option, and guys who don't settle for jumpers, he woudl be ok.

For us, we can't afford more guys to settle for jays. The main problem with KT is also the fact that it seems there is not a 18 foot jumper he doesnt like anymore. He has gotten a little to confident in his "offensive game" at this point.

He is also super uncluth. So was Oak, he'd score in the first quarter only, the big difference is that we never let him shoot past the 1st quarter and let alone in the 4th.

If you use KT right, he would a solid starter/bench player. But we totally misuse him, due to the general lack of talent on the roster.
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gunsnewing
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3/27/2005  1:03 AM
no I've been saying the same exact things about kurt for 4yrs. Now people finally see what I've been saying all along. Now that we have 4 PFs who are better than Kurt Thomas as opposed to weatherspoon, othella and travis knight. I've always said he'd be a good backup PF/C but if he's your starter you are in big trouble. Injuries or no injuries he can't shoot when you put a hand in his face especially during 4th quarters and he has no other skill to make up for it.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/27/2005 01:05:23]
simrud
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3/27/2005  1:04 AM
Dude, I'm not, I clearly said that he does not fit our team, however that does not mean he sucks. That's basically my point.
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simrud
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3/27/2005  1:04 AM
Dude, I'm not, I clearly said that he does not fit our team, however that does not mean he sucks. That's basically my point.
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3/27/2005  1:05 AM
Thanks for the clarification
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gunsnewing
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3/27/2005  1:08 AM
I understood that. My problem is with the people who say how can you blame Kurt, he's a great defensive, hardnosed player and is a great offensive weapon when inreality he has no skills other than hitting a wide open spot up shot.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/27/2005 01:09:15]
diderotn
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3/27/2005  1:10 AM
Dude! you and I are the most hated fans on this board. Mainly because we have constantly criticized Kurt and Houston.....


Posted by gunsnewing:

I understood that. My problem is with the people who say how can you blame Kurt, he's a great defensive, hardnosed player and is a great offensive weapon when inreality he has no skills other than hitting a wide open spot up shot.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 03/27/2005 01:09:15]
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3/27/2005  1:34 AM
last night it was ray allens prayer, tonight it was that lopsided doofus, pryzbilla falling on his own and we getting called for the foul, it was patterson and miles, carer friggin brick layers looking like Rip hamilton and Allan Houston from outside, it was TT and marbury playing well, but still not enough.... it is every loose ball flying to the blazers tonight..

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