4.5 out with 15 games to go.

it's over, done, kaput.

now sweets can get 35 mins (why he didn't get it tonight, i'll never know) and ariza can get 30 mins.

penny can go and die in memphis.

butler should get minutes and marbury should be cut back to 30 mins a night.

and herb should get an extension.

anything else is all pointless.

thank you ladies and gentlemen for watchin the 04-05 season,hope you enjoyed, but yeah thats pretty over with. now lets just hope we can get the #1 overall draft pick
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chris taft here we come

Posted by tkf:

all I have to say is this, the refs have anally rapped us all year, nick collison scrub azz fouled marbury three times on those crucial drives, and no calls... I am really getting fed up with the NBA, which is closely resembling WWF, this league and the refs is so damn fake...

BTW: if stern really wants to improve play, call the game the way college does and take out the 3 point shot the last 5 minutes of the game, make teams play the game the right way......

well homie this aint ya fathers knicks. we dont get calls much our way n e more but we lost so many games by 6 points or less that we cant really blame it all on the ref. we blew more double digit leads than any team this year.
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i bleed orange and blue

Posted by gunsnewing:

what this team needs in the worst way is a lineup of:
Butler
Sweetney
Ariza
Craw
Marbury

to see what we have going for us in the future while improving our draft position and absolutely doing whatever it takes to trade Kurt Thomas for a draft pick.

KT should go on the disabled list so he can mend his elbow and pinky.

Posted by misterearl:

>>it's over, done, kaput.

Stop crying. Basketball is a year-round sport.

As soon as the season is over the Draft happens.

Immediately after the draft is Summer League.

Immediately after Summer League is the World Series.

Then training camp starts.

The New York Knicks are headed in the right direction.

Enjoy The Ride

Some people expected Isiah to fully turn around Isiah's mess in just one offseason. That's their unrealistic expectations and their problem.

Posted by misterearl:

>>it's over, done, kaput.

Stop crying. Basketball is a year-round sport.

As soon as the season is over the Draft happens.

Immediately after the draft is Summer League.

Immediately after Summer League is the World Series.

Then training camp starts.

The New York Knicks are headed in the right direction.

Enjoy The Ride

uhhh, nobody's crying here.

it's been over for over a month now. something i've been saying all along. there was no point for a playoff push and we needed to play our youngsters bigtime minutes. the "over, done, kaput" was for all the people still hanging on by a thread.

nobody's expected isiah to turn it around in one year. this season is done. and this surge didn't help matters either. we get a worse pick.

for once, i wish we took advantage of that january month, packed it in (by playing sweetney + ariza 35+ mins and marbury < 35 mins) and get a better pick out of it.

you bring up the draft, right? well we got an extra pick this year - that's a good thing. but now we have a WORSE lottery pick - that's a bad thing.

my post doesn't say jack about isiah, what he has done, or what he could do. just stating that we can FINALLY give up this playoff dream that's not happening and concentrate on what little we can do to "ACCOMPLISH" something this season.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Some people expected Isiah to fully turn around Isiah's mess in just one offseason.

now that's a freudian slip if i've ever heard one

its more management's philosophy to let talented young players rot on the bench then it is Isiah's imo

I think this team should have been .500 if not for the coaching blunder, which is really my biggest problem with IT at this point.

I think its pretty funny how defensive you guys are, noobody even attacked IT on this thread, and all of a sudden you get posts defending him. Truth hurts, don't it.

i don't get how you're going to call Jamal Crawford a below average starter...just what do you consider average?

Posted by TMS:

i don't get how you're going to call Jamal Crawford a below average starter...just what do you consider average?

I am hoping that this player can hone his skills and MOVE in for a higher % of medium range shots and more driving. I think it hurts his game that he sits behind the 3 pt line so much. He needs to move much more without the ball and try to stay inside the 3 pt line for most of the game. He should watch how Rip Hamilton plays SG, because I think he can exel if he played more like him.

I'd say that Crawford is pretty much an average SG. We invested heavily in him, this was isiah's crown jewel in the offseason. hes got a lot of talent, but he isnt a cerbreal player. Clyde was dead on tonight. why wasnt JC posting up 5-10 players? you know why? because he's a bit of a pssy, he doesnt like contact and he sits beyond the 3pt line to much.

when he grows some more cahones, when he is able to use his brain to think the game and put some heart into it, he could be a good player. until then he is an under acheiving inconsistent showboat type player