Penny, KT and Sweetney.

Bottom line is we need some roster spots. I dont know what we can do with KT. I'm not sure how much value he will have to teams with cap space. I only say that because I am looking to NOT take a player back.
Rose and Taylor make KT and Sweetney redundant. We jsut cant have 5 PFs.. this is retarded. Rose and JYD are pretty versatile frontcourt role players.

Maybe KT + Sweetney for Desmond Mason
buyout Penny .

Last night you got a great peek at what the Knicks would look like if they played more uptemp players. That means less Sweetney, KT, Penny and more Ariza, Rose, JYD.

One of the big problems with this team is style of play. We almost have 2 sets of players and that just doesnt make for good chemistry. Marbury is good in the half court but he and Crawford are better pushing the ball and working in space. Ariza and TT also thrive their. JYD and Rose are great transition defenders and both can handle the ball some. Desmond Mason would be a perfect fit... I would even consider using the 2nd #1 next year if needed because it would put us something like this in the near future:
Marbury / Crawford
Mason / draft pick
TT / Ariza
Rose/ JYD / Taylor
Petro? / Butler / Hunter?
IR: Houston
Its better talentwise and there is a clear move to a faster style of play with more skilled space players.

You don't seriously think these 5 PFs are going to be on the roster in the long-term, do you? I'd be surprised if all five were even here next season. It's extremely easy to pull off a Weatherspoon for Norris type of trade to balance out the roster.

Posted by gunsnewing:

man if Kurt is the one to go I'll do cartwheels! heck i would even inclde Sweetney if thats what it took to get him out of here!

We had 4 PFs before the trade deadline and it was a non-issue. Now we have 5 and it's a huge concern somehow. Maybe Isiah's planning to revisit the deal involving Sweetney to get Curry and we'll be back down to 4 and it will be a non-issue to Fishy. Maybe he has another trade in mind.

Posted by fishmike:

Penny, KT and Sweetney.

Bottom line is we need some roster spots. I dont know what we can do with KT. I'm not sure how much value he will have to teams with cap space. I only say that because I am looking to NOT take a player back.
Rose and Taylor make KT and Sweetney redundant. We jsut cant have 5 PFs.. this is retarded. Rose and JYD are pretty versatile frontcourt role players.

Maybe KT + Sweetney for Desmond Mason
buyout Penny .

Last night you got a great peek at what the Knicks would look like if they played more uptemp players. That means less Sweetney, KT, Penny and more Ariza, Rose, JYD.

One of the big problems with this team is style of play. We almost have 2 sets of players and that just doesnt make for good chemistry. Marbury is good in the half court but he and Crawford are better pushing the ball and working in space. Ariza and TT also thrive their. JYD and Rose are great transition defenders and both can handle the ball some. Desmond Mason would be a perfect fit... I would even consider using the 2nd #1 next year if needed because it would put us something like this in the near future:
Marbury / Crawford
Mason / draft pick
TT / Ariza
Rose/ JYD / Taylor
Petro? / Butler / Hunter?
IR: Houston
Its better talentwise and there is a clear move to a faster style of play with more skilled space players.

careful fish...the very idea of trading Sweetney is sacrilege to some on this forum.

good point fish, I like sweetney but I really wonder, will he ever be better or even more effective than Mo taylor is. that is a good question, because both taylor and Rose can do what sweetney can and taylor is not an old player either and rose for that matter also... But if we can get a player to fill in other positions, then I am for it..

I'm not down on Mike... guys take time and he's gotten better the more of it he's gotten. He is fat but he also uses it to his advantage. Bottom line is he gets double and triple teamed everytime he gets the ball. Mo Taylor or any of our other post players dont get that, and MS isnt even a double digit scorer. I'm NOT looking to dump him but if we can move him for a more uptempo guy I think we have to do that. Its a crying shame the KT/Gooden trade didnt go through.

Maybe we revisit that. Gooden/Newble/Harris for KT and Sweetney. We can release Harris. Newble is a good defender and could have a nice role (especially if we can buyout Penny). Then you have Gooden who's more an uptempo player.

Bottom line is we should really focus on style of play next year. This draft will be deep enough to be a little picky in that regard... we should have a few different options with both picks and not have to worry too much on passing on the BPA.

I love you guys.

That game was fun. We might have had more dunks in that game than the whole Layden era. Rose-JYD-Ariza-Crawford are all athletic but not athletic freaks. Its the smarts they play with(Though Crawford IQ is questionable at times) which is the difference.

Anyone notice whenever Ariza scores you hear YEAAAAA BOYYYYYY.


They still need shotblocking and sharpshooters though.

Posted by joec32033:

Fish I actually really like that Desmond Mason for KT and Sweets deal!
Solves a bunch of problems too....moves Craw to the Swing position, Moves KT , although I don't think Rose is a starting quality player, but just my opinion...(draft 2 big men in the first round...Simien and Petro would be JIM DANDY!)

[Edited by - joec32033 on 03/24/2005 15:21:10]

Rose would be a below average starter, but if you're strong at other positions, you can get by with him starting. The same thing applies to Kurt.

we only have to fill 1 hole this offseason in the frontcourt, & that's at the C position...the other hole that needs replacing is in the backcourt...we need a perimeter defender in the worst way.

i hope to God Isiah doesn't take 2 more PF's to add to the glut & doesn't get a trade done to alleviate that glut...he better have a deal in place before draft day.