Who's minutes is he taking? Its not Kurts, its... YES! Mike Sweetney!
sorry for the sarcasm, but as I watch our season slide down the tubes what do you want to see? A young player possibly blossum with extended minutes or a player approaching 30, the downside of his career and a bad contract try to resurect himself for... what?

I dont know, but I know it sucks. Hope this situtation plays itself out on some positive note. I'm not holding my breath.

On a side note I have been in Denver and missed the Mia game. How did Craw get 12 assists? Was he playing PG and MArbury the 2?

This team does have some good players.. hopefully we can add a couple more good young ones and fix the 40 PF issue, but that will probably mean MS playing elsewhere. Too bad... I'm always sentimental about sweaty guys from GTown

we probably could of done without mo, but I think IT has his eyes on next year with this trade, Is IT really convinced that sweetney is starting material in this league? who knows..

crawford at his best game of the season, imo, running this team. he was making spectacular passes and hitting the open man all the time. when the knicks built their double digit lead, it was with crawford running the point (which included a nice alley to tim). he looked VERY impressive. his shot was off but he didn't take that many. marbury came back in, and took a few ill-advised 3's to sort of kill that momentum - he had 1 stretch with 3 bad possesions in a row. but he picked it up at the end to keep it close but again, bad play with the score tied at the end with marbury iso, then double teamed, passed to kurt and he took a 18 ft jumper over shaq with 10 seconds on the clock and missed it.

as for sweets, this is what i posted while you were gone:

here is a breakdown of mike's stats over the season
nov - 16.8 mins 7.7 ppg 3.9 rebs 54.4 FG%
dec - 16.5 mins 7.7 ppg 4.7 rebs 56.0 FG%
jan - 17.8 mins 7.2 ppg 5.5 rebs 47.4 FG%
feb - 22.4 mins 10.2 ppg 6.7 rebs 51.7 FG%
mar - 19.8 mins 9.0 ppg 6.0 rebs 55.6 FG%

his #'s were going up every month and then BAM, two trades later and his #'s are back down. what is this team doing? by april, he would probably be around 13/7. now he's back down to 9/6 on 20 mins a night AND he's starting!!!

i'm very upset with the way they're handling this guy. EVERY OTHER TEAM plays their freakin' rookies and high draft picks. they give them minutes and minutes and minutes and minutes. why are they not letting him grow?

since the trade deadline:
phi - 32 mins 10/9 3 fouls (no nazr, no malik, no mo)
ind - 13 mins 3/3 4 fouls
lal - 30 mins 19/12 4 fouls
@orl - 16 mins 4/4 2 fouls
gsw - 28 mins 19/7 4 fouls

so you can see that there is no correlation between fouls nad minutes. BUT you can also see that he is on a very short leash. that's not how i wanted his development to go. i don't care if he's a career 6th man, we need to give him 30+ every night to see if he CAN start.

as for his last 3 games:

was - 15 mins 7/6 4 fouls
sea - 20 mins 6/7 4 fouls
mia - 21 mins 4/5 4 fouls

with ZERO action in the 4th quarter.

the way this team is handling sweetney is DISGUSTING.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 03/16/2005 23:24:29]

I would rather give PT to Taylor than Rose.

Posted by Rich:

I would rather give PT to Taylor than Rose.

agree 100%

Terrible trade anyway you look at it, we didn't need Mo Taylor he will never get himself in shape and never commit himself.....

And Crawford took the most ill-advised shot of the game, and it really hurt the team....Marbury was our scoring for most of the fourth but thats the way these two play, no brains, their is a reason we lose so many close games....They are not clutch players, a bank shot does not count....they make bad decision with the ball, and often give it to the wrong people

Silly thread? Who liked the trade to begin with? It's kind of like starting a thread, "Still think Howard Eisley is the best PG in the history of the NBA?"

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 03/17/2005 10:23:33]

yep. I still like the Taylor trade.

We gave up Vin and Moochie for Mo Taylor. Yes, I like the trade.

Posted by BigRedDog:

Posted by NYKBocker:

We gave up Vin and Moochie for Mo Taylor. Yes, I like the trade.

We also gave up a #2 draft pick which is the only part of the trade I don't like. We should have received a pick instead of giving them away.

I still like this trade. Mo is a baller, will produce in the post and clearly opens the floor up for TT...I say trade rose and Kurt for that center we all want. And let sweets battle it out in preseason with another of his ilk. Hard to compare sweets to KT, completely different players.

[Edited by - rvhoss on 03/17/2005 13:37:13]

can we please stop talking about Mo Taylor guys? I mean really...for those of you who hate the trade, get over it already...& for those of you who are blaming the loss tonight on Mo T's play, try looking at the boxscore...Sweetney, KT & Rose all logged more minutes tonight...then take a gander at those "30's" next to Shaq & Wade's names...i don't think Mo Taylor was covering those guys all game long, was he?

if you want to blame anyone, why is no one blaming TT for another 1 of his 8 point, 4 rebound performances in 31 minutes in a game that the Knicks had to have? what about Ariza's 17 minute 0 point performance? Penny was able to match Ariza's stellar statline in only 10 minutes so i guess he had a decent game all things considered, right? & good ol' JYD gave us an intense 12 minutes w/his 3 rebounds & 2 turnovers.

guys, they lost to a far better team tonight...that's all that needs to be said...Isiah's got alot of work ahead of him to get this team back on the right track...the Mo T trade whether it was good or not didn't bring us to where we are today...if Isiah's got a plan in mind to use all the pieces he's assembled here, i want to see it this offseason. Otherwise i may turn against him myself...3 years of failure or more is enough for any GM to get the Ax IMHO.