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BRIGGS
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3/16/2005  10:55 AM
can you tell me what line up we'll be contending with?
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3/16/2005  10:58 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

can you tell me what line up we'll be contending with?

Who says we will be contending in 2-3 years? Id like to see some evidence myself.We are still on the overpaid vet treadmill.Once we jump off,then I will start believing.
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3/16/2005  11:06 AM
when we secure a shot blocking center (wade's penetration null and void) and a shooting guard.

We contend for the finals.

if we had houston healthy all year and craw coming off the bench, we would have run away with the atlantic.

Come on...if you comb through the archives, you will see most people say (with a healthy houston, we contend now).

and don't give me any garbage that there is no chance we can secure a shot blocking athletic big man.

If crawford doesn't hoist that ill advised shot with 18 seconds on the shot clock last night we win (would houston have done that? Or for that matter RAY ALLEN?)

The knicks are contending now...it's an old sports adage...when you always lose close games...add a one piece to that puzzle and you are a contender...reverse those close losses and we lead the atlantic.

I'm 100% confident we will have a shot blocking center within the next 2 years...and we will either have houston or another veteran shooting guard.

Add that to our young core of Ariza, Sweets and Craw and we contend for a title in 2 - 3 years.

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3/16/2005  11:10 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

can you tell me what line up we'll be contending with?

are you serious briggs?

marbury
crawford
finley
mo taylor
kurt

there you go...BAMMM!!!! that has 55 wins and ECF written all over it.

any more questions?
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3/16/2005  11:11 AM
a lot of jibber and no answer. the question, there are some people who feel we will be a contender in 2+ years. my question is what is the line up and if you add a person in there that we dont have, tell me how you get them!
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3/16/2005  11:12 AM

martin (and powers that be) I'm kidding with the beyotch line, just seemed funny when I was talking to myself in my head.

I'm definitely devastated, but I see close losses as inexperience (both coaches and players)...craw never won in Chi town (does he even know what it means to milk the shot clock?)...so he has no idea...he thinks these are regular season games...from here on out, it's playoffs and there can be no mistakes.

oh, also, it appears that we are pretty much .500 in games decided by 3 points or less (7-9)...but hey, I'm still optimistic.

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3/16/2005  11:18 AM
Stromile swift or Samuel Dalembart...sign and trade.

I'm a TT fan (yep, I said it) so I like a line up of:

Marbs
Ray Allen
TT
Sweets
Stromile Swift or samuel dalambart or some other freak of nature.

Bench:
Ariza, Crawford, MoT/Kurt/Rose (whoever is still here)

I'm not as good a proposing crazy trade proposals...but a shot blocking center one year and a pure shooting guard (dime a dozen) don't seem that hard to acquire within the next 2 - 3 years...

before marbs, a true PG was impossible to acquire (well, in NYC anyway)

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3/16/2005  11:18 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BRIGGS:

can you tell me what line up we'll be contending with?

are you serious briggs?

marbury
crawford
finley
mo taylor
kurt

there you go...BAMMM!!!! that has 55 wins and ECF written all over it.

any more questions?

ahh sarcasm at it's finest...

ok, let me be serious now...it's tough for me to see how we can contend within the next 2-3 years.

to expedite the process, we need to get a top 3 pick AND KEEP IT. i also think we need to get crazy lucky in a trade. isiah has overpaid in pretty much every trade so on of these deals will have to yeild somebody that transforms into a star. it could be curry, it could be kwame.

so it's tough to say who or what we can get to contend and it's tough to see if marbury, AT THE POINT, can lead us to contention.

so i don't think you can really answer this question b/c i don't know if isiah is going to keep the picks or trade them.

but i do know that we will need to get extremely LUCKY.
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3/16/2005  11:19 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

can you tell me what line up we'll be contending with?

Whether this team is able to be some kind of contender is going to depend on what kind of talent gets added to the roster-

Lets say we get lucky & get a top three pick- then you've got to hope that a player like a Bogut is attainable and turns into something.

The team has some talent- Marbs, Craw & Ariza I think will be here for the next two years. Sweets might be- those are four solid, young players.

The line up is going to depend on what we can draft/trade for and we will need to get lucky.

If you had asked a cavalier fan before they won the lebron lottery what their line up would be in two years, they would have had no idea and they would have laughed at the prospect of even being in contention for anything but last place.

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3/16/2005  11:24 AM
I think in 2-3 years this team will become respectable, as opposed to being the joke that it is right now.

Never said anything about contending for a title.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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3/16/2005  11:26 AM
That's what I'm saying...we know what pieces we need...it's Zeke's job to go out and get them.

Remember, Ariza was a second round pick.

Also, is anybody else ecstatic the zeke didn't go for webber?
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3/16/2005  11:26 AM
I don't know about contending, but in 2-3 years, I could see us as a team who can consistantly make some serious damage in the post season, or being in a position where we're 1 piece away from contending.
You can't ask for our lineup in 2-3 because we're going to have to rely heavily on the draft to get back into contention. We don't know whose going to declare early, or what other names will make themselves known by that time.
If our guys would play motivated through the entire season, I think we would be a pretty good team. Maybe we find out in a couple years that the missing piece is just a coach or something.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 03/16/2005 11:27:36]
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3/16/2005  11:31 AM
Posted by rvhoss:

Also, is anybody else ecstatic the zeke didn't go for webber?

in all honesty, if the choices were malik/mo or webber, it might not have been a bad idea to go after webber.

penny and nazr/kurt could've easily returned webber who is a better fit for us than he is in philly.

we wouldn't have the 2 late #1's but maybe we still could've gotten into the draft by purchasing a pick or moving whoever was left (kurt or nazr).
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3/16/2005  11:33 AM
simrud:
I think in 2-3 years this team will become respectable, as opposed to being the joke that it is right now.

Yep.


OK...you guys win...I'm going to say LUCK will determine if we contend for a title...and I'm talking Shaq demanding trade to Miami type of luck. I'm talking Ewing first pick type of luck. I'm talking ... well, you know what I'm talkin.

Dang...what a tough effing season.
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3/16/2005  11:40 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by rvhoss:

Also, is anybody else ecstatic the zeke didn't go for webber?

in all honesty, if the choices were malik/mo or webber, it might not have been a bad idea to go after webber.

penny and nazr/kurt could've easily returned webber who is a better fit for us than he is in philly.

we wouldn't have the 2 late #1's but maybe we still could've gotten into the draft by purchasing a pick or moving whoever was left (kurt or nazr).

then we'd be stuck with another Allan Houston like 36year old making 20mil a year with a contract even longer than Houston's!!

yeah we would've been in great shape!

Taylor's 10mil is tradedable. Webber's 20mil on the Injured List with Allan Houston isn't!
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3/16/2005  11:43 AM
this is funny because after everyone was complaining about how bad we are because we were getting blown out all the time in preseason I was saying that we have no shot of contending for at least 2-3yrs because of H20 and everyone jumped at me for thinking so far ahead!
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3/16/2005  11:47 AM
Let me look into my crystal ball... no one can tell you exactly what our lineup will be all we can do is know what we have and know what we need. Like others have said we are a shot blocking center and a shooting guard who can hit a jumper away from contending. Who will fill those roles and how will we get them only time will tell.
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3/16/2005  11:50 AM
well, as a cagey veteran of hte board, you know how jumpy it can be.

I fully expected a healthy houston.

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3/16/2005  11:50 AM
Posted by Clean:

Let me look into my crystal ball... no one can tell you exactly what our lineup will be all we can do is know what we have and know what we need. Like others have said we are a shot blocking center and a shooting guard who can hit a jumper away from contending. Who will fill those roles and how will we get them only time will tell.

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3/16/2005  12:04 PM
Briggs. We are not fortune-tellers. No one knows who is going to be available in the trade market this summer, next season or next summer... but rest assured, there will be players available for whatever reason, whether it be they fall out of favor with their current team, contracts, whatever. Also we do not know who Isiah is going to draft. All in all these are the players that are going to be on our CONTENDING team in 2-3 years. Draft picks and player(s) acquired via sign and trade.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 03/16/2005 12:05:13]
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