Posted by gunsnewing:

I think Curry came a year after Kwame & Chandler. Curry was the #1 pick

out of the 3 Curry is more talented offensively but Chandler would help us the most because of his defense, shotblocking, rebounding and energy.

1 Wizards Kwame Brown PF
2 Clippers Tyson Chandler PF
3 Hawks Pau Gasol SF Spain
4 Bulls Eddy Curry C


Think back.

Kwame had more of an NBA body out of the 3. More in shape of the 3. More of an all around player of the 3. He may have been the only 1 of the 3 who could actually take a defender off his feet from the perimeter and drive it to the hole.

I don't fault MJ. He did what the majority would have did. Take Kwame at no. 1

I remember that draft. I actually liked Gasol first and Eddie Griffin 2nd. (Yeah, Griffin would have been a brilliant move) I am not a big fan of HS kids back then. Obviously, LeBron changed that.

What resume are we talking about? If we are talking about being a fan, I put up my resume with anyone. If we are talking about my line of work, I put up my resume with anyone. If we are talking about being a GM, I put up Ernie Grunfeld's resume with anyone

MJ was a lousy GM, simple as that. The only thing I said on my previous post was that Kwame has been given a chance. Darko has not. I take Zeke over MJ as a GM anyday of the week.

Drafting Kwame that year was a definite no brainer, MJ did what he could with that pick...However, I still believer that he should have drafted Gasol because he wa much more polish than any of the players on that pool...Look at his stats and compare them to the others....MJ redeemed himself the year after by drafting Juan Dixon and Jared Jefferies...Look, it takes time to develop young talents, Haywood was very promessing in his first year, Doug was not patient enough to see that Haywood was the one with the bigger upside. He put all of the emphasis on Kwame because until two seasons ago everyone in D.C. thought that he was the next coming of Sheed/Webber/O'Neal, etc....

The worst move that MJ made was trading for Stackhouse...He should have kept Hamilton and re-sign the guys that played with him the year prior....There was a lot of chemistry in that locker room the first year that MJ played with guys like Popeyes a few other cats that were around...Stackhouse was garbage both on and off the court..

Posted by Marv:

I remember one team brought Chandler and Kwame in together and had them play one-on-one. The word was that Kwame just destroyed Chandler, killed him. I think the feeling was pretty universal back then that Kwame was the #1 pick. It would have been interesting to have seen what he could have done this year if he hadn't gotten injured. He had a real strong streak last year. It's still a pretty tough call to me about what kind of career the guy's ultimately going to have and whether it makes sense to put bucks into him now.

Re: MJ, I thought by far his worst move as a GM was to suit up. I hated it beacause I love the legacy of MJ and thought he was really tarnishing it and I also hated it because I thought it was bad for that franchise.

same here it was very aggrevating seeing Jordan in a Wizards uniform and not being the same player he was in 98. He was still a incredibly good for a 39 year old but He left in 98 because he wanted to leave on top and he did just that! Couldn't even had written it any better then the last shot on Russell! But no he had to come back and see his scoring drop nearly 10 points with an inconsistent jumpshot! And lots of blown dunks! All in a Wizards uniform!!!!

That is why Jordan will be admired for ever..He was never affraid to fail....That is commandable...the trade for Stack and most of all, his coach lost the team, because he didn't know how to properly utilize Stack...Jordan didn't want to pay the guys that were there the year before, mainly because he was trying to get the team under the cap...He cameback to play as a part owner to generate a buzz about a team that has been dormant for more than 20 years and it worked...If that team is successful today, they have to thank Jordan for it..

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Marv:

I remember one team brought Chandler and Kwame in together and had them play one-on-one. The word was that Kwame just destroyed Chandler, killed him. I think the feeling was pretty universal back then that Kwame was the #1 pick. It would have been interesting to have seen what he could have done this year if he hadn't gotten injured. He had a real strong streak last year. It's still a pretty tough call to me about what kind of career the guy's ultimately going to have and whether it makes sense to put bucks into him now.

Re: MJ, I thought by far his worst move as a GM was to suit up. I hated it beacause I love the legacy of MJ and thought he was really tarnishing it and I also hated it because I thought it was bad for that franchise.

same here it was very aggrevating seeing Jordan in a Wizards uniform and not being the same player he was in 98. He was still a incredibly good for a 39 year old but He left in 98 because he wanted to leave on top and he did just that! Couldn't even had written it any better then the last shot on Russell! But no he had to come back and see his scoring drop nearly 10 points with an inconsistent jumpshot! And lots of blown dunks! All in a Wizards uniform!!!!

Posted by diderotn:

If that team is successful today, they have to thank Jordan for it..

I didn't realize Ernie Grunfield was calling himself Jordan nowadays. What a diva!

big pimpin, how can you judge Darko? He plays like 5 mins a game!

kwame does have great potential. can i ask how good do you think jermaine o'neal looked in his first few years bigpimpin. he is great now but he didnt look any better than kwame does, back then. like i said, say what you want but the guy is 6-11 24, has great skills and is a good shot blocker, name a current knicks player that matches that description. there is a reason why so many scouts loved him back then and many still like his game and feel he just needs a change of scenery, you cant teach talent and he has tons of it. with aguire and our staff why is it so stupid to say he cant actually, live up to his potential, he has the ability to be that good, he just needs the right people to bring it out of him.

also jarvis hayes would be a great fit, with out H2O this team has no shooters, in this trade we are giving up sweetney, a good young prospect, and kurt, who is not a part of future plans here. for 2 good young prospects.

NYKfan i don't doubt that he has potential, he may turn out to be Garnett

of course, he has potential but how come everyone has to be the next "somebody".

Maybe Jermaine O'Neal worked harder at his game from not having the world handed to him. Maybe Darko and Kwame don't work as hard because it was handed to them. Maybe it is true when they say basketball is 85% mental.
Maybe they have different make-up's. Maybe everybody can't be the next somebody.

I know guys at the gym that play like Kobe Bryant. Should i start calling them the next "Kobe Bryant" or call them what they really are

It's ok, the only person allowed to question GM's ability is bigpimpin, everybody else does not qualify, cause you know, we are not GM's.