We ran away from what has been working from the last three games. Herb showed that he is a rookie coach by not demanding that Kurt and Timmy to be involve. Marb has only 5 assists, but was 7 for 18, Timmy only took 4 shots? what a dumb decision. Sweetney was very ineffective, perhaps it was because of the injury, but for whatever reason his production and agressiveness was not enough. Crawf who should have been our backup PG, spent more times looking for his shots, and only got us 3 assists.

Perhaps it would have been better to fly them to Florida yesterday instead, because they would have had less time to party in Miami....

What diderotn said and more..... Did Kurt even touch the ball in the 2ns half? TT's been the hottest Knick in the past 4 or so games and he gets 4 shots? Why did Jermaine Jackson even play? What happened to the rebounding? Since Kurt is playing center now, will he still lead the league at not getting to the freethrow line? What the heck has happened to Crawford? I didn't think we'd win this game but I didn't expect this level of ineptness.

I couldn't care less about winning, but that's assuming we play the young guys. Sweetney only played 16 minutes and Ariza finished with 18, most of which being garbage minutes. These two guys are solid contributors to this team, and from what I have seen, there is no question that they deserve minutes.
If we're going to focus on playing the vets and making a run for the playoffs, getting blown out by 22 isn't acceptable for me.
I just got to say to my fellow Knick fans, you guys deserve some props. Supporting a team as frustrating as this is no easy task, but it should hopefully get better. Next year: Sweetney, Ariza, Butler, and our picks. Only thing that keeps me going.
Let's see what happens on Sunday against the Warriors.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 03/04/2005 22:10:19]

i forgot something i my earlier post

Marbury steve Francis
5 Assists 9 assists
22 points 13 points

Marbs outscored francis but at the end of the day Orlando won.

any thoughts?

having ZERO perimeter shooters to counter the zone probably didn't help. they took A TON of open jumpers, but couldn't hit. AND cato played this game (he was out the previous game). so now you have two 7' players clogging the middle. can't run the pick and pop on the zone. thus resulting in us not being able to score our usual ways.

nothing new about our defense.

There is nothing I hate the most is when this team don't try. They had plenty of rest, and I am having a hard time believing that they were tired. They should have stayed their behinds in the hotel, instead of partying in Florida. This team is not good enough not to play at the edge every night. Our rotation was horrible, Penny got too many minutes, and furthermore, Crawf shot too many threes. This team is horrible shooting jumpers, they need to restrict themselves from shooting the 3s. 17 three pointers is far more than what they should have been allowed. The Knicks need to only take 6 three pointers per night. When they have it going, by all means give them more, but 6 should be the magic number. If after 6 the percentage is 50% or more, tell them to take 6 more shots, but if it is below 50% restrict them from it.....We have guys that can play inside, we should utilize them. It was said that TT had injured himself in the second quarter, but the fact remained that he only took 4 shots while Penny and Crawf (our worst shooters) have a combined of 16 shots between the two. We took 77 shots, 17 out of that were 3s. Orlando took 82 shots, but only 7 of that were 3s. The last three games we won mainly because we shot the ball really well. We didn't take that many 3s. If that doesn't say much about our team, I don't know what will.

Versus the Lakers, we took 88 shots, 14 were 3s and we made 7 out of that.

Indiana, we took 74 shots and 3 were from down range

Philly, we took 81 shots and 14 were 3s, and we converted 8 out of that....


Herb needs to really get his boys attention by restricting them from the 3 line. Again 6 should be the magic number..

[Edited by - diderotn on 03/05/2005 13:07:14]

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by MaTT4281:

Next year: Sweetney, Ariza, Butler, and our picks. Only thing that keeps me going.
[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 03/04/2005 22:10:19]

Lets give Marbury and the rest of our great veterans some needed rest. Why dont we start Jackson, Crawford, Ariza, Sweetney and Butler for the remaining of the season and... tank the... I mean, play hard so we can... get the #1... I mean, make the playoffs?

Hard to be a Knicks fan... We deserve a paycheck...

completely agree tho.. I take more abuse than shaq in the paint from friends all the time

Posted by diderotn:

We ran away from what has been working from the last three games. Herb showed that he is a rookie coach by not demanding that Kurt and Timmy to be involve. Marb has only 5 assists, but was 7 for 18, Timmy only took 4 shots? what a dumb decision. Sweetney was very ineffective, perhaps it was because of the injury, but for whatever reason his production and agressiveness was not enough. Crawf who should have been our backup PG, spent more times looking for his shots, and only got us 3 assists.

Perhaps it would have been better to fly them to Florida yesterday instead, because they would have had less time to party in Miami....

The Lakes are only a .500 team, and .500 teams don't do well on the road. Indy was decemated by injury, and PHilly had 8 players. That was not "Success"! We could have built on it, but we mailed it in!

We are not a bad team on paper, but our chemistry stinks! Herb had 4 days off to get his team back together and we ran into a decent orlando team that took us apart.

WE hate cuz we care!