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Dee Brown w/ the Late First Rounder?
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BigSm00th
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3/4/2005  11:19 AM
Dee Brown, aka the One Man Fastbreak for his insane speed, has led Illinois to the best record in CBB. I think he's as good of an option as Diaz with the 2nd first rounder the Knicks have (I'd prefer to go big with the first pick). Intergallactic range on his 3, can play both backcourt spots. Is only 6' and Diaz is probably a better defender, but I'd love to have a 3 guard rotation of Marbury, Crawford, and Brown backing them up.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=10945

Shoots 49% from 3 point range, averages 14 points, 5 assists, 2 steals per game.

He's only a junior but with if Illinois wins it all (and I think there's a very good possibility of that happening), I think he'll go pro, esp. if he got a first round guarantee from IT.

Thoughts? Anyone seen him before?
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3/4/2005  11:21 AM
haven't seen him but would like to. He made the cover of this week's SI so he's a pretty hot topic at the moement.
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3/4/2005  11:43 AM
he's a good player, he's not 6-0, probably 5-9. I'm willing to be patient to see what falls there. In this draft, there will be a real good player in the 28-29 range. I'm wondering if we should try to pry Eddie Curry from the Bulls if they don't want to pay him straight up for our first pick. They don't have a pick and if they want to keep salary down, they can trade him for our draft pick, and we can sign him afterwards. Unless we get pick 1, were not getting a better C than Eddie Curry at any pick. I still take into account Eddie is 22.

A lot of teams like Diaz. In fact I read that Atlanta gave up demands on a player and a pick for Walker because they want Diaz and need that second pick. that was the worst Ive sen him play this year last night, but thats not uncommon for a 19 YO G coming to Duke where every bit of contact goes the other way on you.

If we can get Curry with the 8-9 the pick, I would do it. Not going to give up Sweetney though now, just the pick.

But Dee is a candidate for that late pick, if he comes out.
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3/4/2005  3:12 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

he's a good player, he's not 6-0, probably 5-9. I'm willing to be patient to see what falls there. In this draft, there will be a real good player in the 28-29 range. I'm wondering if we should try to pry Eddie Curry from the Bulls if they don't want to pay him straight up for our first pick. They don't have a pick and if they want to keep salary down, they can trade him for our draft pick, and we can sign him afterwards. Unless we get pick 1, were not getting a better C than Eddie Curry at any pick. I still take into account Eddie is 22.

A lot of teams like Diaz. In fact I read that Atlanta gave up demands on a player and a pick for Walker because they want Diaz and need that second pick. that was the worst Ive sen him play this year last night, but thats not uncommon for a 19 YO G coming to Duke where every bit of contact goes the other way on you.

If we can get Curry with the 8-9 the pick, I would do it. Not going to give up Sweetney though now, just the pick.

But Dee is a candidate for that late pick, if he comes out.

I am not that high on Eddie Curry as you are, Briggs and Eddie Curry is a bad 22, not good 22. Weight issues, lazy issues, passive issues, and this is a contract year for him! I rather we draft our own mistake rather than taking the Bulls. Because you will have to give him a deal better than what Crawford and at this point in time, Crawford is the better player and more of an upside too.
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3/4/2005  3:30 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:

he's a good player, he's not 6-0, probably 5-9. I'm willing to be patient to see what falls there. In this draft, there will be a real good player in the 28-29 range. I'm wondering if we should try to pry Eddie Curry from the Bulls if they don't want to pay him straight up for our first pick. They don't have a pick and if they want to keep salary down, they can trade him for our draft pick, and we can sign him afterwards. Unless we get pick 1, were not getting a better C than Eddie Curry at any pick. I still take into account Eddie is 22.

A lot of teams like Diaz. In fact I read that Atlanta gave up demands on a player and a pick for Walker because they want Diaz and need that second pick. that was the worst Ive sen him play this year last night, but thats not uncommon for a 19 YO G coming to Duke where every bit of contact goes the other way on you.

If we can get Curry with the 8-9 the pick, I would do it. Not going to give up Sweetney though now, just the pick.

But Dee is a candidate for that late pick, if he comes out.

I am not that high on Eddie Curry as you are, Briggs and Eddie Curry is a bad 22, not good 22. Weight issues, lazy issues, passive issues, and this is a contract year for him! I rather we draft our own mistake rather than taking the Bulls. Because you will have to give him a deal better than what Crawford and at this point in time, Crawford is the better player and more of an upside too.

pick # 8 for Eddie Curry is not a bad trade man. a bad 22 is when you see a kid who weighs 130 pounds with a crack pipe in his back pocket. eddie curry is in great shape, i still do not think he is utilized right.
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3/4/2005  3:33 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

he's a good player, he's not 6-0, probably 5-9. I'm willing to be patient to see what falls there. In this draft, there will be a real good player in the 28-29 range. I'm wondering if we should try to pry Eddie Curry from the Bulls if they don't want to pay him straight up for our first pick. They don't have a pick and if they want to keep salary down, they can trade him for our draft pick, and we can sign him afterwards. Unless we get pick 1, were not getting a better C than Eddie Curry at any pick. I still take into account Eddie is 22.

A lot of teams like Diaz. In fact I read that Atlanta gave up demands on a player and a pick for Walker because they want Diaz and need that second pick. that was the worst Ive sen him play this year last night, but thats not uncommon for a 19 YO G coming to Duke where every bit of contact goes the other way on you.

If we can get Curry with the 8-9 the pick, I would do it. Not going to give up Sweetney though now, just the pick.

But Dee is a candidate for that late pick, if he comes out.

I seriously think that Isiah had Curry on his mind when he made the Rose deal. Maybe even possibly the Taylor deal as well. Curry went public and said the coach or me. I know Zeke was trying to pursue him after that and see if he could be had. Isiah has been very high on Curry almost making a move for him earliery in the season and there both from CHI. Bulls would love to move Chandler to center and if they could get say KT to play PF and a draft pick for more depth up front they might just make the move S&T.

I agree 100% that Curry would be the best center that we could land with our pick. Unless Petro is the real deal then he would be perfect for us. And Curry just being a 22 yr old 7'fter with potential would give us huge value. Him going public though really hurt Chi since they know they must move him or move the coach. Curry is a risk though especially if we give him a big contract. But to become a true contender you have to make moves like this.
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3/4/2005  3:38 PM
Kwame Brown is back as well. 10rebs in 32mins 12 rebs in 32mins in his first 2 games. No blks and low pts though.
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3/4/2005  3:43 PM
Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.
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3/4/2005  4:16 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.

Yeah, but you cannot go wrong by trading Curry for pick 8-9-10??/ if they were willing to pay him. If Isiah traded Penny Hardaway and pick 9 to Dallas for Mike Finley Ok you have got a f problem, but trading for a 22 YO C who has put up a number of high % 20+ pt games isnt a bad deal!
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3/4/2005  4:21 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.
That's my point, Cartwright had to get on him to shed weight, and he pops an attitude. The only reason he hit the weight room was look the part. He is smoke and mirrors. I don't think he loves the game, he is content on just being what he is. I don't see him blossoming like J O'Neal who didn't have playing time in Portland to develop. Curry has had multiple time to turn into a force but ...
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3/4/2005  4:33 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.

Yeah, but you cannot go wrong by trading Curry for pick 8-9-10??/ if they were willing to pay him. If Isiah traded Penny Hardaway and pick 9 to Dallas for Mike Finley Ok you have got a f problem, but trading for a 22 YO C who has put up a number of high % 20+ pt games isnt a bad deal!
Curry's stats are average at best. 15 ppg, 5.6 rpg, .88 bpg, .6 apg. What is alarming is his 2.69 turnovers per game. This after 3 seasons. I am guessing that one of these big men coming out can do better than that after 3 seasons. I rather keep my pick and take a chance.
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3/4/2005  7:28 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.

Yeah, but you cannot go wrong by trading Curry for pick 8-9-10??/ if they were willing to pay him. If Isiah traded Penny Hardaway and pick 9 to Dallas for Mike Finley Ok you have got a f problem, but trading for a 22 YO C who has put up a number of high % 20+ pt games isnt a bad deal!
I'm not saying I wouldn't want Curry on this roster. For the right price, I'd take him. But I'd rather use our best assets (our lottery pick and expiring contracts) on other players--even if they're players with lower potential but a much better attitude.
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3/5/2005  12:35 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Curry's got a gifted body, he's in a contract year, and he has the desire/motivation/intensity to pull down only 6 rebounds a game? Something's seriously wrong. I'll pass on him. When he got down to 280, I thought he was trying to pull a Dampier in his contract year, but it looks like he forgot that you actually still have to play hard for a full year to accomplish that.

Yeah, but you cannot go wrong by trading Curry for pick 8-9-10??/ if they were willing to pay him. If Isiah traded Penny Hardaway and pick 9 to Dallas for Mike Finley Ok you have got a f problem, but trading for a 22 YO C who has put up a number of high % 20+ pt games isnt a bad deal!
Curry's stats are average at best. 15 ppg, 5.6 rpg, .88 bpg, .6 apg. What is alarming is his 2.69 turnovers per game. This after 3 seasons. I am guessing that one of these big men coming out can do better than that after 3 seasons. I rather keep my pick and take a chance.

agreed
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