Posted by gunsnewing:

hah in a second! thats the kinda deal Isiah is going to make on draft day. He put too much time into this year's draft not to!

one thing though Golden St would have to draft for us then we can trade because we can't trade our 1st pick this year before the draft I think.

does that still apply if you're just trading picks to move up in the draft? it's not like you're trading away your pick for a veteran player only.

Didn't GS trade there pick for Baron Davis??

no the GS deal was Claxton and Dale Davis alone for Baron Davis if I remember correctly

One reason I don't think we'll be able to trade up on draft day is that teams are overvaluing draft picks, particularly high ones, right now. You'll notice almost no picks traded hands in these massive player trades on deadline day, certainly no impact picks. I think GMs don't want be the one to miss the next star in the draft, the way so many skipped Wade, Amare or missed a chance at Bron or Melo.

I don't think we'd be able to trade for a top three pick. Also, that trade involves the Knicks taking on $70 million in long term deals between Foyle and Fisher. Isiah would be skewered.

only if it was the #1... then yes. Otherwise if its a cash deal I would rather just hang onto TT and keep my options open.

One $$$ I would consider along your lines is TT+ cash + the late #1 for Foyal and Petius.

Posted by NYKBocker:

Nope. If we get the 7th pick or higher in the lottery we can still pick Fran Vazquez, Tiago Splitter, Chris Taft, or Aleksandrov. One if these guys will fall on IT's lap.

Then with the PHX pick we can either pick-up Channing Frye, Francisco Garcia or Rudy Fernandez.

not a bad plan either..I like it!

Posted by NYKBocker:

Nope. If we get the 7th pick or higher in the lottery we can still pick Fran Vazquez, Tiago Splitter, Chris Taft, or Aleksandrov. One if these guys will fall on IT's lap.

Then with the PHX pick we can either pick-up Channing Frye, Francisco Garcia or Rudy Fernandez.

No one is trading the top pick. either we win it or we move on to plan B. Plan B, to me, is being aggresive in a draft that may be explosive, that could yield some real fine pieces. But I'm going to doubt *highly* that isiah will be looking at most of the guys you mentioned. Of course they will be looked at, but I see us staying out of that European market. there are some really really exciting skill players in CBB and HS right now, and if Im isah, I probably try to move that Spur pick from 06 into this draft[with protection] and grab 3 guys out of this draft because it will be GOOD. We definitely need a scoring G, a 6th man type, a guy who can come off the bench and rev up the motors like John Starks use to. There are a couple of HS players that are VERy exciting players, and there is another 7 foot american skill player whose family comes from the Soviet Union who also is an exciting prospect. I think we have a lot of big boys right now. I think a couple of exciting athletic guards and a skilled 7 footer will mesh nicely with what we have.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Posted by NYKBocker:

Nope. If we get the 7th pick or higher in the lottery we can still pick Fran Vazquez, Tiago Splitter, Chris Taft, or Aleksandrov. One if these guys will fall on IT's lap.

Then with the PHX pick we can either pick-up Channing Frye, Francisco Garcia or Rudy Fernandez.

No one is trading the top pick. either we win it or we move on to plan B. Plan B, to me, is being aggresive in a draft that may be explosive, that could yield some real fine pieces. But I'm going to doubt *highly* that isiah will be looking at most of the guys you mentioned. Of course they will be looked at, but I see us staying out of that European market. there are some really really exciting skill players in CBB and HS right now, and if Im isah, I probably try to move that Spur pick from 06 into this draft[with protection] and grab 3 guys out of this draft because it will be GOOD. We definitely need a scoring G, a 6th man type, a guy who can come off the bench and rev up the motors like John Starks use to. There are a couple of HS players that are VERy exciting players, and there is another 7 foot american skill player whose family comes from the Soviet Union who also is an exciting prospect. I think we have a lot of big boys right now. I think a couple of exciting athletic guards and a skilled 7 footer will mesh nicely with what we have.

so you're telling me the 2weeks he spent in Europe was a waste!

I would do that trade. The two contracts we'd be getting stink, but would give us a legit backup PG and backup C who blocks shots. Not the worst thing in the world I guess. The top 3 pick is certainly worth it. I think Chris Paul goes somewhere in the top 3 so we'd be able to land Bogut or Sabonis' pupil with that pick.