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LarrythaLeo
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8/10/2001  3:22 PM
Yesterday was the first time I ever visited realGM.com and I left being disgusted. How is it that the Knicks keep signing guys to these rediculous contracts despite the cap.

Three worst signings

Luc Longley for Like 6mil.

Clarence Weatherspoon for 4mil and change he's actually getting paid more than Kurt the guy he's gonna be subbing for.

Glen Rice for like 9mil

(Its a shame I said three b/c Mark Jackson and Larry Johnson should've made this list )

Three best

Marcus Camby is making a reasonable salary for his hard work

Othella Harrington maybe the knicks most accurate signing, but they have been dangling his name trying to move ward.

I hate to say it but I cant find three

Anyway if this ward-rice trade goes through the knicks will be left with some good trade bait. I think they'll hold on to these players for this season but next year watch out.
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8/10/2001  3:54 PM
LarrytheLeo,
The year to look to is 2004.
After that year we will only have 3 contracts on the books if players and/or management doesn't extend. Those players would be Houston ('07), Spoon(up to '06) and Eisley ('06).

KT, Camby, and Spree are in until 2004 when they can become FAs again.

After 2003 the following comes off of our cap:
Jax, Bogues (and possibly Othella if he opts out)

After 2004 the following comes off our our cap:
Knight, LJ, Longley(provided we get no cap relief), Foyle
as well as KT, Camby and Spree (as mentioned above).

I don't know about Anderson yet, becuase the deal hasn't been finalized, but I would bet it's going to be at least 3 years, maybe more like 4or5.

The trade would give us better contracts than what we have (Rice and Ward), but still we wouldn't have much flexibility over the next 2 years to sign FAs.
However, that's not such a bad thing provided the Knicks become contenders. Don't fret about being over the cap unless of course the trades don't work out and we stop making the playoffs.

The only unreasonable contract is Houston's right now. Spoon and Eilsey have high contracts but not totally untradeable like Rice, Ward's and Knights!

That's why this works. Layden got rid of 2 contracts that nobody thought he could get rid of. Kudos if it goes through.
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8/10/2001  5:17 PM
larry we should have 34 million i cap space by 2004 and we could sign someone like kgor duncan or mcdyess.
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12/22/2007  7:41 AM
Posted by rayknick:

LarrytheLeo,
The year to look to is 2004.
After that year we will only have 3 contracts on the books if players and/or management doesn't extend. Those players would be Houston ('07), Spoon(up to '06) and Eisley ('06).

KT, Camby, and Spree are in until 2004 when they can become FAs again.

After 2003 the following comes off of our cap:
Jax, Bogues (and possibly Othella if he opts out)

After 2004 the following comes off our our cap:
Knight, LJ, Longley(provided we get no cap relief), Foyle
as well as KT, Camby and Spree (as mentioned above).

I don't know about Anderson yet, becuase the deal hasn't been finalized, but I would bet it's going to be at least 3 years, maybe more like 4or5.

The trade would give us better contracts than what we have (Rice and Ward), but still we wouldn't have much flexibility over the next 2 years to sign FAs.
However, that's not such a bad thing provided the Knicks become contenders. Don't fret about being over the cap unless of course the trades don't work out and we stop making the playoffs.

The only unreasonable contract is Houston's right now. Spoon and Eilsey have high contracts but not totally untradeable like Rice, Ward's and Knights!

That's why this works. Layden got rid of 2 contracts that nobody thought he could get rid of. Kudos if it goes through.

The year to look to now is 2011! What will the year to look to be in 2011: 2015? (I was curious how far back these types of threads went.)
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12/22/2007  8:24 AM
lol... great find... looks like learning from our mistakes is never gonna happen around here at this rate.
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12/22/2007  10:44 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:



The year to look to now is 2011! What will the year to look to be in 2011: 2015? (I was curious how far back these types of threads went.)

No...if we do it right the year is 2009 or 2010.

If we did it absolutely right and struck gold the only players we might be stuck with come summer of 2009 are Jeffries, James, QRich. What's that a combined 19M or something for that year? Big deal.

Curry, Crawford, Zach are all tradeable and if we act quick we could potentially get mostly 09 expiring back for them (maybe a small 2010 expiring or something of that nature if it ends up a 1 for 2 type trade for either of them).

Marbury and Malik you just buy out right now.

The rest is meaningless in terms of a 2009 date.


Allow Zeke to trade Marbury or Malik? Then, yes, it's 2011.


A good start would be Curry for Kwame. Seek to do the same with Zach and Crawford. It CAN be done if we started NOW!!!!!!!

If we wait until the summer then you're going to see teams offer up expiring 2010s in trades and seek to keep the 2009s for blockbusters or their own cap space. Yet, now, 2009s are 18 months away so they're not as valuable to the teams that hold them!

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12/22/2007  1:52 PM
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