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diderotn
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2/25/2005  9:35 AM
I see nothing but good happening with this Knicks team. Critics are always going to criticize Isiah for doing the things that he does, but he will prevail as always. Isiah is always at his best when he is under pressure or heavily criticized. This Knicks team needed a shakeup and Isiah did just that. Don't be surprize if we have finally put it all together and make the playoffs. I know that it is a long shot, but this organization is known for stricking gold when it is least expected. 20 and 9 is not hard at all. Marburry will have a chance at proving that he can be the best PG in the East. Our defense is definitely going to improve with the additions that we've made. Go Knicks, prove the skeptics wrong.....What do we have to lose? nothing. We have draft picks, and Isiah can always put a combo together to get closer to the first pick. Go on and win games......
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2/25/2005  9:40 AM
I will never cheer for the Knicks to lose but for the franchise's sake... we really do need this lottery pick if we want to get closer to a championship. With that said, in the unlikely scenario that we rally and make it to the playoffs I will be cheering this team on just like I have always been.
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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2/25/2005  9:44 AM
how many draft picks we will have for the next draft?????? Isiah has been doing some heavy scouting, I can almost guaranty you that he will draft very well with the picks that he has....
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2/25/2005  9:51 AM
I trust Isiah in his scouting and that is why I want the lottery pick. Lets face it, picking in the lottery gives you a much better shot at getting franchise talent than picking in the teens does. Plus, if you have a lottery pick you have much more leverage since you can try to move up by packaging that with another first rounder. Picks 14 and 29 combined won't get you nearly as high as picks 6 and 29 would.
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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2/25/2005  12:23 PM
Let's not forget that Isiah can also combine the 14th pick with either Penny's contract or TT just to move up in the draft. That happens all the time my friend....


Posted by s3231:

I trust Isiah in his scouting and that is why I want the lottery pick. Lets face it, picking in the lottery gives you a much better shot at getting franchise talent than picking in the teens does. Plus, if you have a lottery pick you have much more leverage since you can try to move up by packaging that with another first rounder. Picks 14 and 29 combined won't get you nearly as high as picks 6 and 29 would.
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2/25/2005  2:09 PM
crazy scenario! What if we make the playoffs and advance to the second round, face and eliminate the Heat like we did a few years back. What if we still end up with the same amound of picks and endup with one of the top three picks???? It can all happens...


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2/25/2005  2:21 PM
Boy its been a while for me. Since the Knicks went in that horrible stretch I haven't watch a game even check anything over the net. These trades have peeked my intrest in the club and I actually feel exicted.

With these trades I actually see a future and there is a plan for this team. A team that will be young, athletic, and talented. One thing I hate is the Knick bashing in the media from ESPN to the local papers. All they is say is we added payroll and have no center and they just look at the face value of these trades. First, payroll is not a concern so why worry becuase I really don't care about payroll. Second, Nazy was a decent center and not a legit center so no need to cry over him. Even IT said he's not enough to contend we need better.



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2/25/2005  2:27 PM
the only reason Nazr looked half decent in the begining of the year was because of Stephon Marbury's constant pentration.Nazr got a ton of rebs and putbacks. During the 1st 2 months he shockingly scored every now and then on a miracle shot in the post but he cooled off drastically. e just cant score period! He's a solid backup C but has to mny waknesses to start. Now imagine what a real Athletic, finishing & hustling big like Bogut or Swift can do playing with Steph!!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/25/2005 14:27:48]

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/25/2005 14:37:27]
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2/25/2005  2:28 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Let's not forget that Isiah can also combine the 14th pick with either Penny's contract or TT just to move up in the draft. That happens all the time my friend....


Posted by s3231:

I trust Isiah in his scouting and that is why I want the lottery pick. Lets face it, picking in the lottery gives you a much better shot at getting franchise talent than picking in the teens does. Plus, if you have a lottery pick you have much more leverage since you can try to move up by packaging that with another first rounder. Picks 14 and 29 combined won't get you nearly as high as picks 6 and 29 would.







Yea you can do that if you want to take a bad player back with a large contract for like 3 or 4 more years...personally I don't want to go that route. My point was that its easier to move up in the draft if you already have a lottery pick.

[Edited by - s3231 on 02/25/2005 14:29:35]
"This is a very cautious situation that we're in. You have to be conservative in terms of using your assets and using them wisely. We're building for the future." - Zeke (I guess not protecting a first round pick is being conservative)
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2/25/2005  2:29 PM
we willhave a lottery pick
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2/25/2005  2:31 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

the only reason Nazr looked half decent in the begining of the year was because of Stephon Marbury's constant pentration. Now imagine what a real Athletic, finishing & hustling big like Bogut or Swift can do playing with Steph!!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/25/2005 14:27:48]

I like the sound of that.

[Edited by - taps on 02/25/2005 14:32:01]
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2/25/2005  3:09 PM
Will Malik and Mo be available for tomorrow's game? if so, what role should either of them play? should we keep the starting lineup as is now: Marb, Crawf, TT, Sweet, Kurt or should we change it now that we have defenders in Rose???/ Can Malik PLAY SF and why not?????
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2/25/2005  3:39 PM
no keep it the way it is. Rose will be the backup center and Taylor the backup PF and JYD will play sf/pf each will get about 15-18mins a game. Sweetney will get 30mins
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2/25/2005  3:44 PM
I think your crytal ball fell into my piss bucket
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2/25/2005  3:50 PM
Posted by fishmike:

I think your crytal ball fell into my piss bucket

LOL!!!!! Is that why it's so cloudy when we look into it?
Wishing everyone well. I enjoyed posting here for a while, but as I matured I realized this forum isn't for me. We all evolve. Thanks for the memories everyone.
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2/25/2005  5:15 PM
and yellow
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2/25/2005  5:17 PM
We have a mess in our hands, but it is a good mess to have. We just have to bring in a Center like Jamal Sampson to really satisfy the trades. We need a Center, not a freaking PF like, But a real Center....6'11"/7' 270 or more. There aint too many of them out there. I am curious to see how the Knicks performs tomorrow with the new acquisitions that we just traded for...
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2/26/2005  10:02 PM
I can smell a pretty good mix with our roster now. We got rid of three players that we really didn't need in my opinion, and suddenly the Knicks are beginning to look like a real team....

Bring it Knicks, we have to shut the haters up....
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