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diderotn
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2/25/2005  8:52 AM
has been on my radar for a while now. However, I wanted to trade Kurt to get him. Isiah knows what he is doing, and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt to see what he will do come next season. A lot of the fans criticize the trade, but I see nothing but good coming out of that. Just having the opporturnity to trade Nazr for a couple of first round picks, and having the expiring contracts next season should be just is needed for the Knicks to truly rebuild into a real contender. Now with Malik, we have definitely improve our interior defense, and with Mo we will have a true postup player.

A big lineup will not hurt

Marb
Crawf
TT
Mo
Kurt

We sure are going to have issues figuring out who our starters will be. We have so many of the same parts, that will cause our headcoach a huge headache.....

Why didn't Isiah trade Kurt????????
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2/25/2005  9:00 AM
I like the San Antonio trade, and I suppose I can accept the Houston trade, but I probably won't be happy with it until his third year.
I desperately want Sweetney to start (I've also been praying for TT to go down with another injury, nothing big, but enoigh to bring Trevor back into the lineup). Overall, good day. I guess you can't complain too much when you only give up Vin/Moochie/2nd round pick.
As for Kurt, Isiah didn't trade him because he actually does like him. You can only hope that a deal comes up this summer.
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2/25/2005  9:04 AM
Posted by MaTT4281:

As for Kurt, Isiah didn't trade him because he actually does like him. You can only hope that a deal comes up this summer.










Take a look at this http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/284371p-243640c.html

I highly doubt that its accurate (especially since its Isola), but imagine if that deal did go down...

[Edited by - s3231 on 02/25/2005 09:05:49]
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2/25/2005  9:09 AM
Watching last night's game really put a bad taste in my mouth. We played like a team with no identity. We were doing nothing but shooting jumpshots, and that in my opinion is garbage. As bad as a jump shooting as the Knicks, we definitely need to run away from that style. With a lineup of: Marb, Crawf, TT, Mo, and Kurt, we will at least a true postup player that we can dump the ball to downlow. How athletic is Mo? it will Marburry's job to bring that out. I have watched this guy played and I can tell you all that this dude can flat out ball.

the next move that Isiah should make is a very simple move, he needs to go out and bring in Jamal Sampson to solidify the Center spot. He is a shot blocker and most of all a very athletic young man that we can definitely sign on a 10 days contract......Do it Isiah.
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2/25/2005  9:13 AM
Posted by s3231:

Take a look at this http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/story/284371p-243640c.html

I highly doubt that its accurate (especially since its Isola), but imagine if that deal did go down...
Ya, joec was just telling me about that trade. I would have jumped for joy if that went down, as I'm assuming most fans would have, but if it is true, Cleveland came to their senses before the deadline .
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2/25/2005  9:19 AM
To trade for Drew Gooden means that Sweetney's future as a Knicks would have been either a backup or traded to another team....It wouldn't make no sense what so ever. I am surprised that Minesota didn't jump at Kurt. I feel really sorry for KG....
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2/25/2005  9:26 AM
Posted by diderotn:

the next move that Isiah should make is a very simple move, he needs to go out and bring in Jamal Sampson to solidify the Center spot. He is a shot blocker and most of all a very athletic young man that we can definitely sign on a 10 days contract......Do it Isiah.









For the first time in awhile, I agree with you on something. Isiah really should use these roster spots wisely because if you bring in a couple of young guys that can play well here, then you could have another asset or two. I definitely want to give Sampson a shot, he is pretty much the epitome of what we need on this team so we should see if he can give us something. I would also like to find out whats going on with Jay Williams... if he can still play I would really love to have him here as our backup PG.
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2/25/2005  9:31 AM
If you can get someone of substance for sweets, then why not. I know he's has plenty of potential, but unless he makes drastic strides this season ( including off season)why not see if you can better now, as opposse to 2007/2008.

I'm not banking on phil coming to the knicks, but in any event, other than the fact that it's NY, what is so attractive about this roster to make him or any other coach, want to coach here.
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2/25/2005  9:41 AM
Frankly, I don't want Phil in N.Y. beside, he doesn't want to coach under Isiah. He will be the headcoach of Minnesota, because they are a much better franchise. He would be dumb to pass on that opportunity. Look for Isiah to make a really strong push at Brown or Saunders for next season. As far as Sweetney, I still want to see how good he can be. There is just something about this kid that tells me that he will be a good one. Can't you see, as our starter last night, we won the game.
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2/25/2005  9:52 AM
here is an observation that I should share with all the real Knicks fans, Marburry last night collected 12 assists while he only scored 17 or 18 points. Guys were making their shots, and as a result he and Crawff have amassed 21 assists between the two of them. For those of you whom have heavily criticized this young man, I am here to tell you that your critics of him have been very unfair. We are a jump shooting team, and a very bad one. TT had a great night and combined with his cousin Kurt, they have both missed no more than 5 shots. Who should be blamed for our problems? it is definitely not Marburry...I know that he has his flows also, but if we put talents around this kid, the Knicks will be a force....
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2/25/2005  10:05 AM
Re: the next move that Isiah should make is a very simple move, he needs to go out and bring in Jamal Sampson to solidify the Center spot. He is a shot blocker and most of all a very athletic young man that we can definitely sign on a 10 days contract......Do it Isiah.

diderotn - your assesement of Marbury is on the money. He and Jamal still play like strangers instead of complementing each other. One dominates, the pother watches. They need to talk with Clyde and Pearl

Having said that, talented big men aren't walking the streets just waiting to be picked up on a ten-day.

Isiah knows what he's doing

What's the problem with allowing him three years of patience to do his job.... without the insulting headlines?
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2/25/2005  10:32 AM
Mo Taylor used to be one of my favorite player when he came out of college.....He came out of Michigan. How he got fat is annoying....He was a nice 230 back then. Funny enough....he still has good athleticism.

check his stats from his first few seasons. http://aol.nba.com/playerfile/maurice_taylor/index.html?nav=page

He has Eddy Curry desease cuz for some reason he can't rebound. He's been getting better at it though.

He has a nice post game. Right now he might be the best option the Knicks have in the post. His jumper is nice too.

He's been chucked in Houston since Van Gundy got there. Taylor is a nice player......I hope he can really take advantage of being in NY.
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2/25/2005  12:20 PM
You are right, but giving a young big man like Sampson a chance is not a bad idea. Especially giving the low price that we would have to pay him. Isiah took a chance in Demarr, he should take a gamble on Sampson. My wishes always come true, I am very confident that Isiah will bring Sampson in for a trial very soon...

Having said that, talented big men aren't walking the streets just waiting to be picked up on a ten-day.

Isiah knows what he's doing

What's the problem with allowing him three years of patience to do his job.... without the insulting headlines?
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2/25/2005  1:01 PM
With their two trades, the Knicks frontcourt has just received a facelift. The Knicks love second-year forward Mike Sweetney, and this move was likely made more to allow him to start, rather than to replace the veteran players. Expect Thomas and Sweetney to start and Taylor and recently acquired Malik Rose to pickup the garbage minutes.
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2/25/2005  1:09 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

With their two trades, the Knicks frontcourt has just received a facelift. The Knicks love second-year forward Mike Sweetney, and this move was likely made more to allow him to start, rather than to replace the veteran players. Expect Thomas and Sweetney to start and Taylor and recently acquired Malik Rose to pickup the garbage minutes.

exactly what I said yesterday. This trade will not effect Sweetney's minutes all that much since now he'll be starting and getting Nazr's 28-30mins per game. While Taylor and Rose split Sweetney, Baker & Moochie's 30mins.

If Sweetney stays out of foul trouble he will get 35mins a night. either way its a lot more minutes than the 17.9mins Sweetney is averaging now!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 02/25/2005 13:10:36]
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2/25/2005  1:43 PM
call me dumb but I love these moves.

Positive of the spurs trade: We get two first round draft picks. People say they are just like second rounds. You could not be any more wrong if we had the last pick of the 2005 draft we could have had that brazillian powerforward anderson Vajerio or whatever. he is very talented. We then could have picked ariza up with the second round. Do you see the difference?

Negatives of the spurs trade: We lose Naz. Naz gets his numbers but they have no impact on the game. Sweets and kurt will step in an fill the void Naz left as already seen in the last game we played.We then take back roses contract. People don't like this part but I could care less. It ends the same year as kurt. and one year after H20's contract. Now knowing that do you think we would have been under the cap even if we had not taken him. Exactly what I thought.

Positives of the Houston trade: We dump VIn and Cooch!!!! Everyone would cringe whenever they logged a second in a game. they both were useless. We get back Mo taylor. I am not going to say he is a superstar but what I will say is that his weaknesses are the same exact weakness that vin baker has. They play crap D and can't rebound. The difference is that Mo can score and he is athletic.

Negative of the houston trade: We take back 1 extra year of contract. people act like this is the end of the world. We would be no where near the cap anyway. Plus would you rather 2 years with Vin baker and cooch getting minutes or or 3 years of Mo getting minutes this is all the difference is. We also give up a 2006 second round pick. I would have rather not give this up but think about it. 2006 is the first year the age limit will be enforced. That means no young prospects also meaning this draft will be very thin. All those players who would have dropped because some teams picked potential wont in 2006. Also to all those greg Oden fans it seems the year of the Oden is 2008.
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2/25/2005  2:02 PM
The difference is that Mo can score and he is athletic.
you lost me there. If that was the case then so what. Apparently you havent seen Mo lately. Not only is he fat but he's been benched and put on IR to make room for... (ready to cringe) Clarence Weatherspoon.
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2/25/2005  2:09 PM
well he has been on the IR since jan 18th what do you expect for him to be in tip top shape? he is in JVG dog house much like Arroyo was in sloans and rose was in pops dog house.
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2/25/2005  2:15 PM
I want to be the bravest guy on this board to say this, I can see pretty good production out of all of our bigs coming these next few games. They will all perform and we will finally get the much needed identity that we've lacked. Mo is going to get in shape and ball like he can, and look for TT to come out and play hard. the combo of Malik and Kurt at the frontline will deceive alot of teams. They are both hard working players and will complement eachother very nicely. Malik is not a big guy, but he has a huge heart. As much as I don't like Kurt's game, but now that we have postup players that can play the PF position, look out. He can take as many jump shots as he wants, but when it really comes down to it, we will have the option to dump the ball down low and allow our lowpost scorers to do their things....I am a little excited. I still want Jamal Sampson as my future Center.
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2/25/2005  2:21 PM
I can see Taylor playing very well with Marbury. A lot better than playing with Ward, rod strickland, tyronne lue and david wesley
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