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with the westside bid, i think the dolans are going to pare payroll
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djsunyc
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2/24/2005  1:40 PM
i see us just letting all those expiring deals do just that, expire. nazr, we can keep or use in a deal but the other $35 mil will probably go off the books. $108 mil in 05/06, $68 mil in 06/07. that's $40+$40 (luxury) meaning $80 mil in savings.

i mean with this cablevision bid in for the westside, i think the dolan's need to cut salary every which way they can. that's why i don't see anymore big $$$ deals. those contracts looks like they won't be used.

and i'm fine with that.

like others have mentioned, use the draft, get 1 more pick giving us 3 this season and assemble a bench of 5-7 young players to build with. our starting 5 will probably be the same (barring any minor MLE signing) but our bench is what needs to be significantly upgraded via the draft.
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fishmike
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2/24/2005  1:46 PM
good... some people dont get it but trimming payroll WILL result in a better team sooner that people think. It forces you to commit more resources to scouting and the draft.
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Nalod
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2/24/2005  1:55 PM
Exaclty, I was actually thinking the same thing.

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Nalod
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2/24/2005  2:23 PM
My old signature was:

"The problem at hand must be solved with a higher level of thinking than that in which created it!: Albert Einstein.

Thank you Isiah for deviating from the Starphuchers of the past.

Thank you for not persuing the instant buzz.

Please let the madness end!

Bonn1997
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2/24/2005  2:31 PM
Hopefully this theory isn't true. There's nothing gained by being $50 mil instead of $70 mil over the cap. Fortunately, I haven't seen any evidence over the past few years to indicate that the team is remotely interested in cutting payroll.
djsunyc
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2/24/2005  2:36 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Hopefully this theory isn't true. There's nothing gained by being $50 mil instead of $70 mil over the cap. Fortunately, I haven't seen any evidence over the past few years to indicate that the team is remotely interested in cutting payroll.

EXHIBIT A - NOT getting webber
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2/24/2005  2:40 PM
If we let the contracts expire, we may very well be UNDER the cap, if Isiah plays his cards right. We are about 45 mm over the cap right now I guess? Maybe 50? If we let the 35 expire, it will be a significant cut, and then Allan's contract runs out, and we stop paying back Shandon. 2007 has been the key year for 4 years now. The only difference is that it's that much closer, but the record of the team is still pretty much the same.

I too am all about just letting the contracts burn and getting back to where we were in 1996 when we signed Allan Houston, Chris Childs (Overpaid him) and traded for Larry Johnson. It was uphill from there until we traded Ewing.
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2/24/2005  2:45 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Hopefully this theory isn't true. There's nothing gained by being $50 mil instead of $70 mil over the cap. Fortunately, I haven't seen any evidence over the past few years to indicate that the team is remotely interested in cutting payroll.

EXHIBIT A - NOT getting webber
Cutting payroll means reducing payroll to a level lower than it previously was. Not getting Webber didn't affect our payroll and had nothing to do with cutting payroll. Isiah's not going to add EVERY expensive player, but that doesn't mean the payroll is being cut.

Allanfan: Being under the cap doesn't help you sign superstars. They almost always re-sign with their own teams or sign contract extensions before they even become FAs. Because of league rules, they can get SO much more money from their current teams than from any other team. If the Knicks are going to try to get another star to play with Marbury, their best bet is via trades
with the westside bid, i think the dolans are going to pare payroll

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