Posted by Bonn1997:

I'm not nearly as high on Walker as Fish is. I don't know how well he'd fit in here. If you can get him for the MLE, that's great, but I'd want him to be our 6th man with Ariza starting at SF and any of a number of PFs that we could probably get starting. He probably has too much of an ego to be a 6th man, though.

Posted by fishmike:

Can we get him just one frontcourt player that can play? I dont think its a fluke watching how Jamison has affected Arenas and the Wizards.

I 100% agree that we need to rebuild our frontcourt and start putting guys in place that can be a part of something, but I hope we get some kind of frontcourt player that falls into our laps. If we stick to the plan and add young players great, but if a guy like Walker falls into our laps for the MLE (He much better than Juwan Howard, but you never know) this team would rebound very quickly. Another could be Rahim. The only guy I would include our pick to get would be Odom because of his age, but I think our chance to get a guy like is somewhere between 0% and 2.5%.

Marbury's year so far:
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scoring 18th in NBA
assists 3rd in NBA
steals 21st in NBA
FT attempts 9th in NBA (among guards)
FG% 7th in NBA (among guards)
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While I think getting a guy like Walker or Rahim to put w/ Marbury would make us favs to win the Atlantic (not saying much) I am NOT willing to give up young players or use picks.

i'm confused fish...obviously if we were to acquire Walker or Rahim, they would be coming w/contract extensions in all probability...so why are you so dead set against trading for a guy like CWebb? he's better than both those guys easily...i see very little hope of getting anyone of those guys for a MLE, so i discounted that part of your post...i know the contract of CWebb is horrible, but consider how much better he can make Marbury as a player & i think it might be worth a shot...just my opinion

[Edited by - TMS on 02/11/2005 12:04:33]

If a Webb deal contains any of our young guys or future picks I stay away... at some point we need to change our philosophy and stick to it. If they want to include Brad Miller then I change my tune because that makes us a contender;
Penny/TT/Nazr/Sweetney and this year's #1 for Webber and Brad Miller.

That gives the Kings some young players and about $20mm in cap space to put someone players around Bibby and Peja. Unlike Atl Sac is a premier place to play.

As for the Knicks next year your:
pg Marbury
sg Crawford
sf Ariza
pf Webber
c Miller

Its a total fantasy trade but it gives the Kings solid options to immediatly rebuild/retool while reducing future payroll by $80mm

Posted by MS:

Marbury will only earn his money when he can make the important free throws, when he can take the game on his shoulders in the final possession and say coach i got it, put the player on the wings, and get down on the blocks and take and make the jump shot......

Posted by newyorknewyork:

It wasn't Isiahs plan to rebuild the way we are doing now in the beginning. But his plan was to build a core of young players and continue to build on that into a championship team down the line. When Zeke was first hired. In the confrence to explain the move Dolan said it was imperative they made playoffs that yr. Im pretty sure when Isiah talked to Dolan before he got the job he agreed to that goal. Things didn't work out. Houston & Tim Thomas were big dissapointments since Houston got hurt last yr. And Tim Thomas dropped off after he got hurt in the playoffs last yr.

Those #s for Marbury aren't even half the #s you could put up in his case. He & we definatly need a frontcourt stud.

[Edited by - newyorknewyork on 02/11/2005 19:31:51]