Nazr + TT for Araujo + Jalen Rose

Tor saves $25mm in future and after next year would have huge cap space to sign or trade for players BEFORE Bosh is up for an extension

Knicks get a young bruiser that Briggs loves and more skilled guy in Rose that can play 1/2/3 and is a proven crunchtime performer.

Then if you could do the KT for Rose + 2 #1s w/ the Spurs you could really be in position to build something this offseason, and even come back next year with a very solid squad

Marbury
Rose
Ariza
Sweetney
Araujo
bench: Crawford, JYD, Malik Rose, Penny
Then you have 3 #1s and Houston's #2 to fill out your bench this year and you get a good long look at Araujo and Sweetney up front.

decent halfcourt team

i would wait on this. i would like to exhaust every possible possibility for nazr before doing this. heck, we were talking about using nazr as a piece to get swift or kwame. now, it's for araujo and a player they're desperate to get rid of.

i think we could get rose AND araujo for tim straight up, that's how desperate they are to get rid of rose.

sweetney, araujo gives us a pretty unathletic froncourt.

sorry fish, but i don't like it. i'd rather hold on to tim and see if he can give us anything next year off the bench and let his $30 mil come off (w/luxury tax) and hope to get something better for nazr. heck, worst case scenario, we can trade nazr at the break next season for an expiring deal and a #1.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 02/09/2005 15:51:32]

fair enough... havent seen much of Raf myself

I wouldn't make that trade with Toronto unless they threw in a first round pick or two (or possibly a first rounder and a second rounder).

They're not winning a championship with Jalen Rose and he's not in their longterm plans. This trade saves them money and gives them Nazr, who is a valuable piece for any team. We need to get something in return for doing Toronto this favor. Araujo was picked way too early, but that's the Raptors mistake, not ours to pay for. If we trade for him, we take him at true value, not Raptor mistake value.

good feedback... not even sure I would do it. you guys know I have been dead set against guys like Rose or anyone else that doesnt have #1 picks attached to them.

i would wait before declaring him a bust. some big men take time because of the variation in speed from CBB to the NBA. I never said this guy was going to be an NBA all star, I said he would be picked 8th ny the Raptors who needed a bulky C who has skills,a poor mans Brad miller type. Let him develop over 2-3 years. Im not interested in any player on the raptors except Bosh who is untradeable, so I see nothing there.


Id like to see us pick up jamal Sampson and give him a good look and get rid of either KT for even an ending contract a second round pick and a young prospect.

Ill trade him to Min for Ebi, Johnson and a 2005 MIn 2