Posted by Caseloads:
brushed it off bro...
Cool.
i know you're on the rag right now, it's ok
ROFL. Don't make me fight you!
That was funny though.
but look at what I said:
1) Build up the young guys... - you gonna argue with me?
Thats not what you said. You said or implied that Marbs was stunting their growth. I don't agree and I really dont think there anything in the games to support this. I have only missed like 3 games this season. I don't see it. But no I wont argue against building up the young guys. Whatever building them up means.
2) Kidd (and Nash) make guys look better - you gonna argue with me?
Nash is not as good as Kidd, but yes they both make players better. Could they make this Knick team better? *HELL NO*
This team can't run and that is what both of those guys do best. What is it that you think these guys could do with sweets, trevor and ?BRUNO? that isn't being done now? Those guys have excellent coaching and multiple stars on their teams, we have decent coaching, one star and a bunch of role-players or up and comings. Its a ridiculous assertion that I dont think makes sense.
Steve Nash played with Michael Finley, Dirk Nowitski, Antoine Walker last year and he didn't avg 11 assists (8 like steph) and he wasn't given all of the credit for the teams success. That is a ****ing great team right there , that could play exactly how Phoenix is playing right now but didn't quite do that. They got bumped in the first round by Sacremento after winning only 1 game!
My point: Coaching matters quite a bit as well, and that coach should be given lots of credit too. It isn't all Nash.
3) The Suns came out in the paper and said Marbs makes the game all about him and not about the other people - fact. Are you gonna disagree that Marbury's attitude could rub fragile NBA players the wrong way? Who in the NBA is not spoiled or fragile mentally? All are pretty much...
I wouldn't argue with their statements thats a fact.
I wouldn't argue that Marbs attitude could definitely improve, that is also a fact.
4) I said Marbs should feed trevor a bit more - I've seen games where Trevor is open or running and leading the break and no pass from Marbs.
I haven't, and I think he gets trevor the ball quite a bit. I'll watch to see if it happens.
5) How many posters on this board have been begging for Steven "Orlando Magic 1st round pick Garbage" Hunter to be signed by IT this summer? Ok...
I have been begging for him, but not because he has so much game and he is better than Nazr, because he is athletic, runs, jumps, and blocks shots. Nazr is not that, and we need that. Nazr is a better player than Hunter though, no qestion about that. Hunter is young, so development potential, and athleticism would be the reason to get him.
I never said that Nazr could be a HOF or a superstar. I think he could be a lot better if fed right and given better leadership. Nazr has great tools to be a decent center in the league. Part is on him and part is on coaches and his PG.
Steph is a huge part of the reason why Nazr has been playing so good this year. Nazr said that himself, Keith Van Horn also said the same things about Steph, did you see that in the papers or do you only see when people make negative comments about Steph? Nazr is the player, more than any other on this team, who Steph has made better. The facts are that he is just not that good. He isn't atheletic, He can't jump, his hands are like bricks, and his 'post game' has been spotted only in quick flashes. Not to mention he takes about 4 seconds off the shot clock just gathering the ball and another 4 to make his move.
He is 28 and can improve, but that isn't on Steph, he has to improve his skills on his own. He has to develop his mid-rang and post games on his time. How many times did I call for them to stop doing that high post pick and roll with Nazr? Everytime they did it I called for an end to it, because he isn't ready for that. When he has the ball beyond 10 feet he is a turnover waiting to happen. Hell when he has the ball in the post sometimes he's a turnover waiting to happen. He gets called for traveling because his foot work sucks, and he forces shots rather than passing out of the post.
Again the key is he is 28 and can improve, but that isn't on Steph, he has to improve his skills on his own. Next year is a contract year for him so we'll see.
BTW I like Nazr, I'm just being critical of him.
And picking Steven Hunter and Jaron or Jason (they both suck) Collins as guys he could be like is crazy. Admit that that was crazy, those guys bring 0 game to the table, he's already better than both of them.
[Edited by - Killa4luv on 02/09/2005 02:52:47]