Posted by BRIGGS:

no, Boone isnt coming out for this draft and he's not a top 5 candidate this year.


As is, Bogut and Williams are both super-sized prospects that no one would trade 1-2.
If Gay does come out, from what I have been able to assimilate from watching the guys, and evaluating what other real evaluators have been saying

the top 5 will not have Chris Paul in it, but instead

1 Bogut
2 Williams
3 Taft
4 Gay
5 Greene

I think that it would be difficult fo the Knicks to bypass any of these players, but rather take the pick and add a Louis Williams with lets say we acquire pick 17 from trading Nazr and buy one more pick like the Trailblzers did later and walk away with Torin Francis

We come out of the draft with Rudy Gay Louis Williams and Torin Francis and we increase our team athletiscm by 100% and add a 6-11 255 pound under-rated PF who was hurt last year, but is a very good post up player who can play 1-2.

Thats where I would go with our offseason. I dont care if it takes time for Gay and Williams to develop, we still have a great deal of highly paid vets and ending contracts to help the *vet* part of the team. This is helping build a new young core.


Im not looking to tade the pick

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by BRIGGS:

no, Boone isnt coming out for this draft and he's not a top 5 candidate this year.


As is, Bogut and Williams are both super-sized prospects that no one would trade 1-2.
If Gay does come out, from what I have been able to assimilate from watching the guys, and evaluating what other real evaluators have been saying

the top 5 will not have Chris Paul in it, but instead

1 Bogut
2 Williams
3 Taft
4 Gay
5 Greene

I think that it would be difficult fo the Knicks to bypass any of these players, but rather take the pick and add a Louis Williams with lets say we acquire pick 17 from trading Nazr and buy one more pick like the Trailblzers did later and walk away with Torin Francis

We come out of the draft with Rudy Gay Louis Williams and Torin Francis and we increase our team athletiscm by 100% and add a 6-11 255 pound under-rated PF who was hurt last year, but is a very good post up player who can play 1-2.

Thats where I would go with our offseason. I dont care if it takes time for Gay and Williams to develop, we still have a great deal of highly paid vets and ending contracts to help the *vet* part of the team. This is helping build a new young core.


Im not looking to tade the pick

Briggs, do you mean Sean Williams from Boston College? Otherwise, I have no idea who that is.

No, I mean either Marvin Williams[top 2 pick] from NC or Louis Williams from HS [pick 15-22]


Torin Francis is rugged and hes big enough to play C at 6-11 255. Frye would be OK, but he doesnt have the power or agility of Torin. If Torin didnt get hurt, he wouldve been a top 5 pick last year.

I like Francis, but is he coming out? He seems raw still and he's only a junior.

Posted by BRIGGS:

i'll try to equate 18/Louis Williams =cross between Ben Gordon and Allen Iversen 6-2 170 combo G 44 inch vertical leap

19/Rudy Gay= A cross between Shawn Marion and Scottie Pippen 6-9 225 SF who will be able to play 4 in an up tempo system. 40 inch vertical and a 7-3 wingspan

21/Torin Francis--something along the lines of a slightly taller Antonio Davis 6-11 257 C/PF

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Villanuva got my interest as well. 6'11 very good help defender shot blocker. Very good rebounder. His turn around could be unstoppable becasue of his size. Off the pick and roll he could be deadly with Marbury. As he can put it on the floor. Make the extra pass. Hit the jumper. Take it to the basket for a dunk or layup. I wouldn't mind grabbing up an extra pick and snagging him with one. Ariza-Villanueva-Sweetney rotation at Forward. And he has came up big in down the stretch in 2 games that I know of this season.