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joec32033
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2/7/2005  10:29 AM
TT for Kittles and Wilcox
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2/7/2005  10:42 AM
This apparently works under the salary cap. They love cutting salary, they might want to try out TT. I really hope everyone likes this trade. Can anyone poke holes in it?
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2/7/2005  10:43 AM
i don't think so. What's the enticement for them in acquiring TT? And isn't Wilcox their insurance if they don't want to spend so much for Brand?
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2/7/2005  10:44 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:

This apparently works under the salary cap. They love cutting salary, they might want to try out TT. I really hope everyone likes this trade. Can anyone poke holes in it?

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2/7/2005  10:53 AM
I figured that a line of Kaman-Brand-TT is nice for them. Wilcox is has really cooled after a great 1st quarter of the season....I think he can pay center in the East, since he put up his big numbers as a center in the West....the CLips would prolly be better off because with Maggette and Brand and Simmons, TT would be what he is best, either a sixth man or a 3rd or fourth option...

We would have a lineup of (I would also LOVE to trade KT to Dallas for MArquis Daniels and Armstrong who is a FA at the end of the season)

Wilcox/Nazr
Sweets
Ariza
Steph-Craw-Daniels (as a 3 guard rotation)

La would have

Kaman
Brand
Simmons-TT
Maggette
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2/7/2005  10:54 AM
Why this won't work. The Clips won't do this because Kittles is an expiring contract and Wilcox is a young cheap PF for now. TT still has 1 year left on his contract after this year. The only player I see us picking up from the Clips where Sterling might actually do would be Elton Brand for either TT or Penny with Sweetney and probably the Houston (JVG) 2nd rounder.
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2/7/2005  10:57 AM
If he gets rid of Brand, it defeinately won't be for anything we have.....Wilcox is a luxury that is totally displaced with Brand there...IMO
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2/7/2005  11:02 AM
I would be interested to know what the Clippers would want for Wilcox.
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2/7/2005  11:07 AM
Posted by Marv:

i don't think so. What's the enticement for them in acquiring TT? And isn't Wilcox their insurance if they don't want to spend so much for Brand?
Maybe they want to see if TT works in their system better than Wilcox who is not too loved by coach dunleavy. They are either gonna give up Brand or Wilcox right? If they are gonna trade Brand, they can have anyone they want on our roster. If they want to give up Wilcox, they got a good trade here in TT and Kittles. Work?
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2/7/2005  11:17 AM
Posted by joec32033:

TT for Kittles and Wilcox

i don't see why they do it when they have Corey Maggette at the SF & Kittles w/his expiring contract...Wilcox is their low priced insurance against Elton Brand getting injured as well.

if you offered them Ariza who's a hometown LA guy, then i can see the logic for them...i'd trade Ariza to get Wilcox if they would be willing to do that, but it would take some filler contracts to make the dollars match.
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2/7/2005  11:26 AM
TMS, the same logic you used for saying they don't need TT goes against them trading for Ariza, Wilcox is the 5th wheel in LA...Simmons and Maggette are swing men and TT can spell Beand at times if need be...
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2/7/2005  12:03 PM
first of all, TT is better than simmons, and if we made a trade like this, I would be estatic.... we could use kittles shooting off the bench and wilcox is the type of athletic PF we need... The clippers are stuck with brand and his huge deal, he is going nowhere...
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2/7/2005  12:51 PM
Posted by joec32033:

TMS, the same logic you used for saying they don't need TT goes against them trading for Ariza, Wilcox is the 5th wheel in LA...Simmons and Maggette are swing men and TT can spell Beand at times if need be...

not really...TT is a high priced backup for Maggette...Ariza gives them a low priced option should they choose to trade Maggette or if he gets injured, same way Wilcox gives them a low priced backup now for Brand.
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2/7/2005  1:17 PM
Actually, Ariza is not an option considering he plays SF, not 2 guard like Maggette....TT make more sense especially since he is a FA after next season. Ariza may be priced pout of their range in two seasons and they would have to/chose to let him go..TT is justified in not being resigned to them...
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2/7/2005  2:06 PM
Posted by tkf:

first of all, TT is better than simmons, and if we made a trade like this, I would be estatic.... we could use kittles shooting off the bench and wilcox is the type of athletic PF we need... The clippers are stuck with brand and his huge deal, he is going nowhere...

I was gonna say the same thing....

They lack depth behind Simmons....Simmons has been a pleasant suprise this year for them.....getting Timmy for a year could really help them. Kittles isn't in their plans anyway......Wilcox is a dunker right now. Brand and Kaman are a nice duo inside and Rebracca is also another good player on their bench.....Wilcox is expendable....once he got hurt they barely missed him.

I like this trade alot.

Still....there would have to be a KT or Nazr trade to follow this trade....probably to get depth at the 3(same position the trade is giving up)

Anyway you look at it it's a nice start to rebuilding. Knicks get another young 4 and they get to dump salary sooner.

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2/7/2005  3:12 PM
LA gets no cap relief from a trade like this & take on an extra $14 million not to mention they lose a very talented young player in Wilcox...for what? Tim Thomas? come on guys...you have to give them more incentive to make the trade than that...just my opinion.
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2/7/2005  3:31 PM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Why this won't work. The Clips won't do this because Kittles is an expiring contract and Wilcox is a young cheap PF for now. TT still has 1 year left on his contract after this year. The only player I see us picking up from the Clips where Sterling might actually do would be Elton Brand for either TT or Penny with Sweetney and probably the Houston (JVG) 2nd rounder.

I'd give them TT or Penny, Sweets, a first and a second rounder. This would make our team complete. Kt as our 6th msn. We are good with brand and we could come out of the east.


Steph
Craw
Ariza
Brand
Nazr

6th man= KT or trade him for something else.
PLus sign Steven Hunter in the off-Season. THis is championship calibur right there.

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