New York trades: SF Tim Thomas (10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26.4 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (19.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.1 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (11.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 29.7 minutes)
PF Mike Sweetney (7.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes)
New York receives: C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes)
PF Austin Croshere (10.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 27.8 minutes)
SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes)
SG Stephen Jackson (15.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.5 minutes)
C Jeff Foster (9.1 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 29.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +18.1 ppg, +11.2 rpg, and +2.8 apg.

Indiana trades: C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes)
PF Austin Croshere (10.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 27.8 minutes)
SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes)
SG Stephen Jackson (15.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.5 minutes)
C Jeff Foster (9.1 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 29.0 minutes)
Indiana receives: SF Tim Thomas (10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26.4 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (19.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.1 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (11.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 29.7 minutes)
PF Mike Sweetney (7.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -18.1 ppg, -11.2 rpg, and -2.8 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED



I know its a big one, but hear me out for a second.

This trade, I feel is exellent for all involved. It saves Indiana money, It gets rid of a nutcase AND most importantly, on a player-for-player basis, they are getting the better players.

Crawford for Jackson - they win easy.

Nazr for Foster - same as above

TT for Croshere and Artest - they save a ton of money, get rid of Artest plus they get a stop-gap player in TT till he's a valuable expiring contract next year, (which they might be able to use to get Stojakovic who wants out big time). Besides, on their team, they could start Crawford and Bender, with Reggie and TT on the bench. Craw provides more scoring, and Bender would provide the defense and rebounding (at 7 ft he shouldnt have a problem there).

Sweets for Harrison - Sweets is much further ahead development-wise then Harrison, and they could play JOneal at C with Sweets at PF.

On our side, we're tanking this season, we can start Harrison and try and speed up his development for next year, and for next year Croshere is a nice player to have on the bench, and Jackson gives us some D. Plus we can start Ariza for the rest of the season as well.

Seriously, I think this is a pretty good trade for all involved. What do you guys think?

And don't forget, Foster, Croshere and Harrison's numbers are grossly inflated this year, because of the suspensions to Oneal, Artest and Jackson. So ignore the +/- cuz it doesnt mean much.

[Edited by - firefly on 02/03/2005 07:05:35]

dream on.

Whats with all the negative atitude. Tell me one reason why the deal doesnt work, then we can talk. But if your just here to be depressive, then dont bother. Im a Knicks fan, its not just a state of mind, its a way of life

here's the reason that trade doesn't work:

New York trades: SF Tim Thomas (10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26.4 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (19.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.1 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (11.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 29.7 minutes)
PF Mike Sweetney (7.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes)
New York receives: C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes)
PF Austin Croshere (10.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 27.8 minutes)
SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes)
SG Stephen Jackson (15.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.5 minutes)
C Jeff Foster (9.1 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 29.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +18.1 ppg, +11.2 rpg, and +2.8 apg.

Indiana trades: C David Harrison (6.9 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.4 apg in 20.0 minutes)
PF Austin Croshere (10.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 1.7 apg in 27.8 minutes)
SF Ron Artest (24.6 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 41.6 minutes)
SG Stephen Jackson (15.7 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 38.5 minutes)
C Jeff Foster (9.1 ppg, 10.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 29.0 minutes)
Indiana receives: SF Tim Thomas (10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 26.4 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (19.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 3.7 apg in 37.1 minutes)
C Nazr Mohammed (11.8 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 0.5 apg in 29.7 minutes)
PF Mike Sweetney (7.4 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -18.1 ppg, -11.2 rpg, and -2.8 apg.

tell me again how Indiana is getting the better players again? i just don't see it.

TMS, as i pointed out above, those numbers mean nothing.
a. because most of it is artest, and hes not playing this year, and

b. Because of suspensions to there three main players, the other guys got mins/stats that they would NEVER get at any other time