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Should Marbury be stripped of his captaincy?
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flex
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2/1/2005  10:42 PM
And given to JC?
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2/1/2005  10:45 PM
and why does he deserve to be captain??
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2/1/2005  10:58 PM
....no.
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flex
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2/1/2005  10:58 PM
I don't know, maybe because he's a better player, leader, team doesn't hate or fear him, team may grow and eventually go to war for him, and there is no one on the team I'd rather have with the ball for a last second shot with the game on the line.
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2/1/2005  11:09 PM
your points would be valid except for the following 2 crucial points:

1) you are handing the reins from a 28 year old volatile guy to an inconsistent 24 year old gunner who plays for the most critical city on earth
2) crawford has proven nothing in terms of maturity or improvement as the season has gone on. In many respects, he has been what everyone here thought he would be: good for 20 a game, but largely inconsistent, not dependable, and lacking on the defensive end

[Edited by - teslawlo on 02/01/2005 23:09:36]
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2/1/2005  11:19 PM
Nobody on this teams deserves to be a captain.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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2/1/2005  11:21 PM
Posted by simrud:

Nobody on this teams deserves to be a captain.
SAD BUT TRUE
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2/1/2005  11:21 PM
there in no captian on this team
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2/1/2005  11:22 PM
Posted by simrud:

Nobody on this teams deserves to be a captain.
true, but hey, isn't the title partially just symbolic and nothing more for some of the teams in the NBA now? How many true leaders are there in the NBA, guys who have proven that in ALL cases - winning AND losing situations, that they just play their hearts out, support their teammates, and try to lead the team to victory?
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2/1/2005  11:39 PM
Marbury is displaying no leadership skills and awful body language during this streak.

Does anyone else think the team might be turning on him? Kurt seems ready to fight him, Nazr isn't putting up the numbers he was a month ago, Penny left the team for a month, etc, etc... and of course, the most damning thing, what's their record since Marbury proclaimed himself the best PG in the league? 2-14. That's pathetic. That's like New Orleans Hornets going through a slump level bad. As Greg Anthony says, we are the worst team in the league right now. It hurts most of all that we have to admit that the fools at ESPN may have been right about Marbury all along.

Truth be told, my friends and I first noticed it in the 4th quarter at MSG against the Timberwolves. Steph was having an absolutely dominant game, but the body language of the rest of the guys on the floor for the Knicks was like, "what a jerk, what am I even doing out here?" Contrast that with the way the New Jersey Nets rally around the great play of Vince Carter and Jason Kidd and you see the difference between leaders and players who have a world of talent and not much else.
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2/2/2005  12:06 AM
Give the captaincy to someone who actually gives a damn, like Trevor Ariza.

All of these guys have NO DESIRE to play the game of basketball. All they care about is picking up their disgustingly inflated paychecks. Tell me, why WOULDN'T you be smiling if you were making $50,000 PER GAME to sit on the bench in your nice suit to chat with all the ladies sitting in the front row??

Do you think that if any of these guys actually WANTED to play, they wouldn't be OUT THERE? Look at Allen Iverson. Tell me how many games he would miss due to a "strained calf"
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2/2/2005  3:07 AM
What good will that do to this team? Please explain.
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2/2/2005  9:38 AM
Posted by simrud:

Nobody on this teams deserves to be a captain.

agreed...sad as it is, Vin Baker has shown more leadership this year than any of the current 3 team captains have in all the time they've been Knicks.
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2/2/2005  9:39 AM
Where do you people come up with this stuff?
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2/2/2005  9:48 AM
Funny...watching the Denver game I was thinking the same thing about the captains. Not just Steph, but Kurt as well. No one on the team was demonstrating and leadership at all. Things have gotten so bad even JYD looks like he is doggin it out there. The TT infecting is spreading!!!
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2/2/2005  10:02 AM
I think we need a team gynecologist.
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2/2/2005  10:05 AM
this season smells tank, leadership is only a sympton....sit back, relax and enjoy the ride
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2/2/2005  10:10 AM
Posted by Andrew:

Funny...watching the Denver game I was thinking the same thing about the captains. Not just Steph, but Kurt as well. No one on the team was demonstrating and leadership at all. Things have gotten so bad even JYD looks like he is doggin it out there. The TT infecting is spreading!!!

yup...even Sweetney was totally meager out there, not his usual hustling self...he let KMart have wide open lanes to the hole & just plain got out of his way when he went up for those monster dunks...even John Andariese was completely disgusted at the lack of heart the Knicks were displaying on the court...not even 1 guy knocked to the floor to send a message...some "enforcer" KT is.
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Should Marbury be stripped of his captaincy?

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