for Stephon Marbury

Nah, neither of the two players are close to as good as Marbury and the guy you get with the draft pick probably won't be either. Like Fish pointed out, let's at least surround Marbury with one or two decent front court players before we give up on him.

ok, some take the bong away from briggs.

Posted by martin:

ok, some take the bong away from briggs.

that's a better, more concise reply than mine was

Posted by martin:

ok, some take the bong away from briggs.

Martin, Its about restructuring this organization. I know most people havent seen Sebastian play, but he is going to be more of a steve nash type PG with ben gordon type speed. It gives us a likely second lottery pick for this year and starts to trim our finanicla obligations. We need to be more in the state where the Bulls are, hungry young skill players. What we paid for marbury was essentially 3 number 1s and a number 2. His value is not as high because its going to be hard for most clubs to take in that salary.

I dont think Marbury is a leader, I dont think his character is to great, I dont know if his game translates to winning because it hasnt. Sometimes what appears less=more.

Its a fair deal. Two lottery picks, because Sebastian is one and cap relief, that would be the going fair rate.

I liked the idea of trading Marbury to the Clippers for a package that included Wilcox.

When you look around the league for teams that may be willing to absorb Marbury's salary, Portland may be one of the very few. Doubt that Clippers will be interested. Sterling is a cheap MF, and they have Livingston and may resign Jaric.

Portland has SAR, NVE, Damon, and Ratliff coming off the books at the end of this season. Then they got the mess with D Miles. I have no idea what they're going to go, but if we could do this trade, I'd be ok with that. I'd like to get a big man in return for the best PG in NBA, but that may be a pipe-dream.

As for the draft position this yr, I think this team will have the 5th worst record at the end of the season. What's needed then is for Isiah to trade up, and pray that we hit the jack pot.

I guess you may be right, but I still want some sort of cap relief in exchange for Marbury.

For example, the Suns got cap relief and two first round picks (you could argue three if you include Lampe) for Marbury. I just wanted the same kind of deal for the Knicks. Then again, it's difficult to expect other teams to be as generous as we were.

I love this deal. Telfair is ridiculously good and has good character. Once Sebastian gets his jumper, the sky is the limit. I see him becoming an Isiah Thomas-type PG, as Briggs said, Ben Gordon type speed with Steve Nash/JKidd vision. He's going to be a good one.

Marbury and Telfair are cousins, too, so I'd imagine they have similar maturation rates. Marbury won one PSAL championship, Telfair won three. And he's in the NBA earlier. I'd love this move.