Patterson + DAnderson + SAR (5 years/$65mm starting at $11mm per)
for TT/Penny + rights to our #1 (say its the #8 pick)

It give Portland a lottery pick, and will allow them to pursue a max level FA because Patterson and DA are still owed a combined $14mm after next season.

Even though the Knicks take one more $$$ after 06/07 they basicly have Marbury, Crawford, SAR and Sweetney as JYD, Patterson, DA, Houston and Shandon all come off the books, putting their payroll (including role players you sign along the way) around $50mm.

SAR and sweetney on the same roster will mean sweetney is a 6th man and can not play with SAR at the same time. if you'd rather have SAR at $11mil than sweetney then this trade works. i would not part with a #1 for that package. in fact, i think we should get a pick in return for giving them all that cap room especially when they're going to lose SAR for nothing.

i wouldn't do it.

i like sweetney and i think he can really dominate in another 1 1/2 - 2 years and i'm willing to give him that time to show it.

i understand brand is good. i understand sar is good. and i understand the importance of post play. why not give it to sweetney and develop our own post guy to see if he can do it? i mean if we are rebuilding then why not develop our own draft picks in the process?

Sar isnt low energy at all. Actually the opposite. he's a great athlete and runs the floor beautifully. Solid in the halfcourt as well, and can play BOTH foward positions (he starting at SF all year). Best player to compare him too is Jamison, another GS loser who's been great for Wash.

as far as SAR goes, lets wait and see. Id like to hope we can go in a different direction, and use a SAR as a back up type plan

Kurt for Rose????? That should have happened a long time ago....Question is, how will Rose help us??? are we doing this trade strictly for the pick???

Posted by diderotn:

Kurt for Rose????? That should have happened a long time ago....Question is, how will Rose help us??? are we doing this trade strictly for the pick???

well, if we were going for a player, id try to get Patterson, I think there is possibilities there or something of that ilk. the deal with rose

A. the picks
B get rid of KT to start Mike
C. To reconstruct Malik's value and to get rid of him

Rose and KT have almost the same deal and same length. KT makes about $4mm more over the whole deal (3 years after this one).

I dont think Port trades SAR now... and we cant give them a pick they can use this year. My trade was post draft where we use draft rights to someone they pick along w/ expiring deals for SAR resigned and Patterson.

Someone posted it. It wasn't actually news from any source. No way would those guys get less than the MLE. We're probably going to have to dip into part of the MLE just to re-sign Ariza anyway.

One thing is for sure, if you want to have SA, we will have to trade Sweetney for a big man like Kwame if he is available...There is no reason why we should repeat all of the mistakes that we have made in the past....SAR is exactly like Kurt but more athletic.....Does he even have a postup game?????