he has been doing so all season, with a few off nights but for the most part he has been on...

KT is over 30 and his value will never be higher. This team isn't winning anything now. Time to go.

KT is a great help defender. He helps every horrible Knick defender out there.

I have been sepcifically watching KT on defense, and almost every playhe ends up guarding 2-3 other players.

Like last game, he had to show to help out Marbury on the perimeter, then had to rush back to contest shot by Tractor, finally he ended up out of position and Gooden got the rebond and 2 ft's. On the play KT saved open looks tice, once for Marbury, and once for Sweetney. After, nobody bothered to pick and block out Gooden. Gooden scores. Apparently thats Kurt's fault now.

He can't jump, yet he still get over a block a game. He is a very good midrange shooter when open. He is the only guy on this team that can actually set a pick w/out gettin called for an offensive faul.

Mohammed on the ohter hand is a garbage player, all he can do is make layups and point blank shots. Thats more then a lot of stiffs out there, but thats not exactly enough for a guy who plays no D and has no touch outside of 5 feet.

There is nothing wrong with trading KT for a 1st round pick, or benching him in favor of Sweetney, but to blame him for all the Knicks's problems is retarded.

If you would play him at C and Sweetney at PF we would be so much better. KT is the best C on this team, just like he was for the last 3 years. Mohammed is a joke and yet another testament to our GM's talent evaluation skills.

and i also see every PF go right around and all he does is put his hands up and doesnt move. his help defense is obviously not working either. he'd be great next to a big who can score and block shots like duncan an d shaq. then his help defense will be effective along with his only offensive strength,. shooting

we could use an upgrade at all three front court positions and I am beginning to think in the back court too.

The one thing that KT has over Marbury?

He tries on defense.

The one thing that KT has over TT?

He knows how to grab rebounds.

The one thing KT has over Crawford?

He consistently hits outside shots.

The one thing KT has over Houston?

He's out on the court still.

For all of his limitations, KT is not the problem with the team.

Would we be better with Amare?

Absolutely.

But, would we also not be better with LeBron than Marbury or Crawford or, possibly both?

Probably.

Trade KT if you can, play Sweets more- let him foul out of every game if need be.

But don't blame KT for the record of this team. He is one of the few knicks that exerts effort every night.

And I'd rather watch 5 KTs busting their butts every night than 5 Marbury's or Crawfords who take a break on the defensive end.

Posted by fishmike:

KT is 31 and gets out played every night, but he really works hard while he's getting outplayed, so its ok.

Glad to see you agree

Actually, Crawford and Marbury get outplayed at times but for different reasons-

KT is outplayed because he has limited gifts.

Crawford and Marbury get outplayed because they don't try on defense.

Why is it that everyone hates TT? He's got great gifts and talents but no heart.

KT has heart.

Do I see KT as part of a championship Knick team?
As a back up in 5 years after Ariza turns into a star, Sweetney develops into a stud and we draft the next LeBron or Amare- I could see that.

I am not saying KT is the answer- maybe he doesn't stop the opposing 4, but Marbs and Craw don't stop their guys either.

The difference? KT tries and I appreciate the effort.

the problem is everyone wants to build an all-star team with "great" players at each position. thats not the NBA, save that for NBA Live.
you guys kill me with his lack of defense, not to compare him to oakley cause he's not....but, Oak couldnt guard the perimter forwards either. I see we need a couple of players young big men, (like who)
upgrade the center position, if KT is the problem, then start sweetney and have him come off the bench or move him to center, where he wouldnt have to guard the atheletic PFs. We will then be saying the same thing about sweetney, because sweetney cant defend the perimeter to save his life. But its ok because he is young. You need a team with a balance and having all atheletic players at every position is not practical in the NBA.
im curious, who do you think the knicks can realistically get at the 4 or 5....

Posted by fishmike:

the thing is TT does nothing. KT plays hard but his effectiveness is incredibily overrated. Crawford and Marbury at least produce on most nights and its fair to say in a better system their talents could contribute to winning basketball.

Its not about bashing KT.. he's got a set of skills, we just need more. At the worst a younger less effective player will have more value moving forward.

Craw and Marbury are consistently ineffective on defense. And thought their strengths would indicate they could contribute to a winning team - their weaknesses would indicate they have a ways to go. That holds much more for crawford then Marbury - but neither has done much to conribute to a winning team yet.

Posted by Bonn1997:

I agree we need defense first. That's why Kurt has to go. Because he has such slow feet, he's our worst man to man defender at PF out him, Sweetney, and JYD. When PFs shoot 51% and Cs 59% against you, you know you have horrible man to man defense. I'd rather split the minutes evenly between JYD and Sweetney and get a half decent young player for Kurt while we still can. Maybe it's not impossible to also get a late 1st rd pick for him, but I don't expect it.

If you help and your team doesn't - the player you cover will score more. Your helping probably still makes your team better - but makes you look worse. KT is our BEST defender at PF and apparently most professional evaluators agree. That is why chaney, wilkins and williams continue to play him and why he has value as a tradable commodity.