Dallas is a contender and needs a point guard to put them over the top.

Think they would do a Marb for Josh Howard or Marquis Daniels and Devin Harris and Salary (stack or Alan Henderson) for an All-Star PG?

I think Isiah the basketball man would do this, but Dolan the $$$ man would not.

Here is a tid-bit on Dallas in Insider today:

Mavericks: Dallas is a point guard away from being in position to win an NBA title this year. I'll give Mavs fans a second to savor the irony.

Mark Cuban has to be kicking himself as he watches Nash put up MVP numbers in Phoenix. Put all the actuarial tables aside for a minute: There was something that Nash brought to the table that formulas don't take into account. Cuban blew it, and he knows it.

While Cuban spent most of the summer obsessing over the team's lack of a big man, teams like the Suns were fine-tuning a style of play (one employed less radically by Don Nelson over the years) that maximized Nash's ability and let the Suns take advantage of the growing weakness of the Western Conference's front lines.

Cuban spent nearly the same amount of money on Dampier that he refused to pay Nash. Dampier is just one year younger and has so far been a major disappointment for the Mavs, averaging 8.7 ppg and 7.4 rpg.

The silver lining is that the Mavs are winning despite Cuban's bumbling. Dirk Nowitzki is having a career year (and, in a bit of revisionist history, the Mavs are claiming that he's playing at this level because he no longer has Nash to lean on. … yeah, right). Reserve Jerry Stackhouse is a strong contender for the Sixth Man honor. Second-year forward Josh Howard has been great, and Terry, Nash's replacement, has been on a tear in January, averaging 16.6 ppg and 6.1 apg while shooting more than 60 percent from the field and the three-point line.

Despite Terry's recent production, the Mavs are still looking to upgrade the point guard position. The Mavs believe Terry is better as a sixth man, a Nick Van Exel-esque scorer. Rookie Devin Harris will be the eventual heir to the position, but he isn't ready yet. While Cuban claims he no longer has interest in Jason Kidd, that isn't entirely true, according to sources close to Kidd. Other point guards on the block that the Mavs might consider include Gary Payton and Andre Miller.

I'm never going to be able to see Marbury getting traded unless Isiah and him get into a arguement. But it is an interesting trade

DAL has a better chance of trading for Jason Kidd than they do Stephon Marbury...

as long as Isiah is the Knicks GM, Stephon Marbury is going to be our PG...bank on that...Jamal Crawford would be traded before Stephon is imho.

Posted by NYKBocker:

I like it. We would then have to get rid of KT asap. Package Jamal and KT to get Brand.

Marbury for Josh Howard/Harris/Stackhouse/Marquis Daniels

Jamal/KT/Brewer for Brand

THEN

Sweetney/Moochie for Kwame Brown


C-Nazr, Kwame
PF-Brand, JYD, TT
SF-Ariza, Howard
SG-Houston, Daniels, Stackhouse
PG-Harris

houston ahead of Daniels and stackhouse!

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01/24/2005 23:13:31]

its definitely a good trade for us with Devin's potential and howard and daniels who proved last year that they could start and put up big numbers and Stackhouse who's unbelievable! you're right, where do i sign? still need a center though

it'll never happen though. can you imagine the papers and mike and the mad dog. they'll eat Isiah alive for giving up on the almighty Stephon

I'm going to have to quote allanfan!

Posted by Allanfan20:

ISIAH IS NEVER EVER TRADING STEPHON MARBURY! WE MIGHT AS WELL NOT DISCUSS THIS!

This is actually a realistic trade for both teams...as a Knicks fan I'd jump all over this...three young players to mix with your other young guys.

Posted by martin:

Dallas is a contender and needs a point guard to put them over the top.

Think they would do a Marb for Josh Howard or Marquis Daniels and Devin Harris and Salary (stack or Alan Henderson) for an All-Star PG?

I think Isiah the basketball man would do this, but Dolan the $$$ man would not.

Here is a tid-bit on Dallas in Insider today:

Mavericks: Dallas is a point guard away from being in position to win an NBA title this year. I'll give Mavs fans a second to savor the irony.

Mark Cuban has to be kicking himself as he watches Nash put up MVP numbers in Phoenix. Put all the actuarial tables aside for a minute: There was something that Nash brought to the table that formulas don't take into account. Cuban blew it, and he knows it.

While Cuban spent most of the summer obsessing over the team's lack of a big man, teams like the Suns were fine-tuning a style of play (one employed less radically by Don Nelson over the years) that maximized Nash's ability and let the Suns take advantage of the growing weakness of the Western Conference's front lines.

Cuban spent nearly the same amount of money on Dampier that he refused to pay Nash. Dampier is just one year younger and has so far been a major disappointment for the Mavs, averaging 8.7 ppg and 7.4 rpg.

The silver lining is that the Mavs are winning despite Cuban's bumbling. Dirk Nowitzki is having a career year (and, in a bit of revisionist history, the Mavs are claiming that he's playing at this level because he no longer has Nash to lean on. … yeah, right). Reserve Jerry Stackhouse is a strong contender for the Sixth Man honor. Second-year forward Josh Howard has been great, and Terry, Nash's replacement, has been on a tear in January, averaging 16.6 ppg and 6.1 apg while shooting more than 60 percent from the field and the three-point line.

Despite Terry's recent production, the Mavs are still looking to upgrade the point guard position. The Mavs believe Terry is better as a sixth man, a Nick Van Exel-esque scorer. Rookie Devin Harris will be the eventual heir to the position, but he isn't ready yet. While Cuban claims he no longer has interest in Jason Kidd, that isn't entirely true, according to sources close to Kidd. Other point guards on the block that the Mavs might consider include Gary Payton and Andre Miller.

Posted by joec32033:

The trade he proposed was Daniels OR Howard, meaning we would get 2 young players and salary...Personally, I would prefer Daniels, Howard and Henderson for Steph....move Craw to the point Daniels to the 2

Nazr
Sweets
Ariza/Howard
Daniels/Allan
Craw.Brewer

Craw at PG! Ouchhhh! if marbury is being criticized about how he runs this team just imagine what we'll do to crawford! We'll need Devin Harris in return. I'll settle for Henderson over stackhouse but we must get Harris if we're giving them Steph

Posted by nyk4ever:

It must be nice to live in a fantasy world... Cmon guys, we all know full well this trade is NOT going to happen. Would be it be nice to get Daniels and Howard, of course it would but this trade is just not going to happen. Stephon is going to be a Knick till the day him and Isiah have a huge fight and right now thats not going to happen becuase the Knicks poor record is NOT Steph's fault. Geez, I would just like to some team give Steph a chance until they get the roster right.

It's not a fantasy world. The trade actually benefits both sides. Will it happen? Not likely, but it can be talked about.

In my mind it comes to the NYK owner. Can he tolerate 1 to 2 to 3 years of a bad team to make it much better over a 10-year time period? If he was smart, he would.

Right now, both from a financial and player/talent standpoint, Marbury is almost too good. Too good in the sense that he puts butts in MSG regularly and good enough to keep this team at around .500%. Is that really healthy for the team? Not really. Is he good enough to win a championship? Debatable.

Now, trading Marbury for 2 younger backcourt guys who need about 2 years of playing time before they become absolutely solid, and in the mean time giving Ariza, Sweets the time to play, would be a good thing. You step back for 2 years and give your team a chance to get in the lottery for a big man, and add in the expiring contract, also give yourself more of a chance to add players. You get 5 years younger at the small positions.

Fantasy? Only in Dolan’s eyes.

Posted by martin:

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by joec32033:

The trade he proposed was Daniels OR Howard, meaning we would get 2 young players and salary...Personally, I would prefer Daniels, Howard and Henderson for Steph....move Craw to the point Daniels to the 2

Nazr
Sweets
Ariza/Howard
Daniels/Allan
Craw.Brewer

Craw at PG! Ouchhhh! if marbury is being criticized about how he runs this team just imagine what we'll do to crawford! We'll need Devin Harris in return. I'll settle for Henderson over stackhouse but we must get Harris if we're giving them Steph

I had the same reaction. Craw is NOT a PG is any way, shape, or form. He is a very good passer for a SG, but nothing more. He has NO idea about how to run a team, and is more of a shoot-first PG ala Marbury.

Crawford has to show much, much better decision making as an SG before we even think about him playing PG