Posted by crzymdups:
[quote]Posted by Nalod:
TT has dropped so far that nazrs contribution is not worth what we lost in KVH and Doleac. KVh is also an ending deal this season.
Craw the clown is a multiyear project. His upside remains, but Allans slow recovery has propelled Craws playing time when he should get the hook. it is key that Allan recover. For this season.
I'd say there is truth in all the messages in this forum. But I long feel that Layden is no benchmark to judge Isiah. We should expect much better!
Huh? KVH's deal runs a year longer than TT's. It was a great trade if only for that aspect. Add the fact that Nazr is our single most tradeable asset and may lead to getting a guy like Stromile, Kwame or Tyson and it was a great trade.
You guys are hilarious. You scream about needing to rebuild and then when a guy comes in here, CLEARLY INTENDING TO REBUILD, you scream and moan that we'll never get a superstar big and the GM has no plan. Do you really think Isiah has NO PLAN? Really?
He's got a plan. Give him this draft and this summer to make moves. If the team isn't moving in the right direction by September 05, then I'll start screaming for Isiah's head too, but COME ON. He traded for the superstar point guard we've coveted for ages. He got Penny's deal which is shorter and far more tradeable than Eisley's deal. He traded for TT and Nazr who are far more tradeable than KVH and Doleac. TT has the shorter deal than KVH and most teams probably see Nazr as starting quality. Mullin almost gave us Dampier for Othella and Nazr. Now, with Nazr expiring, you know how many teams will take a one year flier on a 27yr-old 6'10" center who is top five in the NBA in offensive rebounding and top ten in FGP?
People who always preach the need to rebuild in the draft need to ignore ESPN's anti-Isiah bias and look at the product on the floor. Is it the best basketball team we've seen since Camby left? Yes. Is it young and athletic? Yes. Part of being a young team involves losing heart breaking games like the Detroit game, the Bulls games, the Bucks game, the New Orleans game, the Orlando game and the Washington game. Next year, when this team has more pieces and Marbury and Craw know how to play off each other better, they'll win the majority of those close games.
I'm really getting sick of this ridiculous negativity and questioning of some overall plan. Give him this offseason. Let's see if he can make another Marbury type trade to land Odom, Webber, Stromile, something. Let's see if he can snag Phil or Larry after landing a big or two.
[Edited by - crzymdups on 01/24/2005 14:27:08]what are you talking about, isiah said there would be no rebuilding in NY and had no use for the draft in the first few weeks he was hied. remember mike sweetney is NOt his pick, its a guy who was here.
If you think rebuilding is spending 200mm dollars on Marbury crawford and Nazr, thats a TERRIBLE plan. the playetrs are CASTOFFS from losing franchises--how dos that=winning???? we got what we deserved going after TT, my bet is we couldve gotten much different better value for KVH when he was hot as hll last year. we couldve broken up all the assets we had i.e Mcdyess ending contract our draft pick, lampe and instead of spening so much, i mean what would you rather haev now, Marbury or say Al Jefferson and Josh Smith? Honestly, wed be in BETTER poistion with JEFFERSON and SMITh even if you dont understand it--like I sais the day after we traded for marbury and you can go look it up, trading for marbury put us DEEPER into the quagmire and we are in DEEP.
I mean how is this guy trying to tell you that the young core is here?
Id bet most savvy basketball fans would trade Marbury for Josh Smith and Al Jefferson in about a second.
1/24/2005 1:27 PM