Posted by BigSm00th:

Shit's hit the fan. The order has to come from Dolan though. He ordered Sather to stop getting the expensive older guys and told him to start rebuilding this team.

Dolan's gotta tell Isiah, and let's admit, at this point recognizing young talent is probably the only good thing Isiah Thomas does.

You are absolutely right and there is nothing wrong with tanking this season.and as hard as this sound if we need to trade marbury for 2 good players so be it.

Knicks don't have to try and tank the season, all they have to do is show up and the rest will fall in place... I don't see why sweetney is not starting, both KT and nazr are killing this team....

KT is probably starting to keep his value up

package kt and nazr by the trade deadline for a kwame type player, athletic pf out of the draft. easier said than done w/kt & nazr, but they both have good contracts, nazr is young, and kt has what a well rounded team needs.

The record right now is not pretty, but I like our young players and like the trade assets we have over the next two years. There's nothing to be upset about regarding the long-term outlook

Posted by Mac:

Posted by Bonn1997:

The record right now is not pretty, but I like our young players and like the trade assets we have over the next two years. There's nothing to be upset about regarding the long-term outlook

OK Isiah...

Hey Layden, which young player do you not like: Ariza or Sweetney?

Which of our $70+ mil in expiring contracts over the next 2 years do you not like?

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Mac:

Posted by Bonn1997:

The record right now is not pretty, but I like our young players and like the trade assets we have over the next two years. There's nothing to be upset about regarding the long-term outlook

OK Isiah...

Hey Layden, which young player do you not like: Ariza or Sweetney?

Which of our $70+ mil in expiring contracts over the next 2 years do you not like?

Return of a snit vomit.

Dude, last years rebuild did cost a bundle. If Isiah is talking rebuilding, he is backtracking. He tried doing both at the same time. At least he has Sweetney, and the gods did shine on us with Reezy. He was not even to make roster! That puts Isiah back in the game somewhat.

I really believe that Isiah tried to put the talent on the floor, but could not change the character of the team. He really tried. This is not the best group of guys, but he thought if he could get more discipline, more unity, more "city" attitude, etc, that these guys would become more territorial and play for the city. As TT said, he plays for himself, Crawford is a nice kid, who is trying not to chuck, Marbs still needs more charm school lessons, but I think he is trying, KT is playing at his best ability, Nazr and Vin are who they are, And Anfernee is a cancer. The sum of these pieces are not collectively better than the individual talent.

Im not sure I can really say that Layden, or his players, or any other moves would have worked out better. Isiah tried to install some charactor in these guys but they are too experienced, and newly rich to have the humility to change. Too bad. I have hope. I do't know in what, but I have hope.

Posted by Panos:

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Mac:

Posted by Bonn1997:

The record right now is not pretty, but I like our young players and like the trade assets we have over the next two years. There's nothing to be upset about regarding the long-term outlook

OK Isiah...

Hey Layden, which young player do you not like: Ariza or Sweetney?

Which of our $70+ mil in expiring contracts over the next 2 years do you not like?

Return of a snit vomit.

Dude, last years rebuild did cost a bundle. If Isiah is talking rebuilding, he is backtracking. He tried doing both at the same time. At least he has Sweetney, and the gods did shine on us with Reezy. He was not even to make roster! That puts Isiah back in the game somewhat.

I really believe that Isiah tried to put the talent on the floor, but could not change the character of the team. He really tried. This is not the best group of guys, but he thought if he could get more discipline, more unity, more "city" attitude, etc, that these guys would become more territorial and play for the city. As TT said, he plays for himself, Crawford is a nice kid, who is trying not to chuck, Marbs still needs more charm school lessons, but I think he is trying, KT is playing at his best ability, Nazr and Vin are who they are, And Anfernee is a cancer. The sum of these pieces are not collectively better than the individual talent.

Im not sure I can really say that Layden, or his players, or any other moves would have worked out better. Isiah tried to install some charactor in these guys but they are too experienced, and newly rich to have the humility to change. Too bad. I have hope. I do't know in what, but I have hope.

I'm no fan of Layden, but are you guys forgetting that
Sweetney was a Layden pick? You seem to be giving credit to
Isiah for him.

Isiah deserves the credit; Sweetney was just rotting on the IR under Layden and probably still would be. Isiah gave him playing time and got a personal trainer (Aguire) for him.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Do what the Rangers did, and dont wait, trade anything and everything for picks and have a gd dam plan in what you are doing this time.

Explain to me again what the rangers did?

Marbs is our Messier...shut your mouth and be patient...chump.