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JonsTintedTails
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1/21/2005  1:00 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1972052
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1/21/2005  1:06 PM
thats a pretty darn good bench upgrade. look at the way they do things, we have all seen how good arroyo is and he is under very little pressure because hes a back up+ gives them safety if Billups gets hurt. Not much money and quite a tradeable contract at any point.
On top of it, its likely they will get Cambell back, unless denver swipes him
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1/21/2005  1:07 PM
i say Isiah sign Elden Campbell w/the remainder of the MLE he has left from the Vin Baker signing if Campbell gets waived by the Jazz & clears waivers like the article suggests.
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1/21/2005  1:32 PM
Posted by TMS:

i say Isiah sign Elden Campbell w/the remainder of the MLE he has left from the Vin Baker signing if Campbell gets waived by the Jazz & clears waivers like the article suggests.

I would do it but then you have to do whatever it takes to trade KT otherwise Eldon will be taking Sweetney's minutes away. It would be good because we wouldn't have to see KT at center anymore when Nazr needs rest
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1/21/2005  1:33 PM
Posted by TMS:

i say Isiah sign Elden Campbell w/the remainder of the MLE he has left from the Vin Baker signing if Campbell gets waived by the Jazz & clears waivers like the article suggests.

my god will it ever stop, even from the fans--why do you want to spend mORe money--we have spent enough!!-- for a 36 year old player? is he the difference in getting to the ECF or something? NO! we already haev an old pOS in vin baker we barely use.
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1/21/2005  1:42 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by TMS:

i say Isiah sign Elden Campbell w/the remainder of the MLE he has left from the Vin Baker signing if Campbell gets waived by the Jazz & clears waivers like the article suggests.

my god will it ever stop, even from the fans--why do you want to spend mORe money--we have spent enough!!-- for a 36 year old player? is he the difference in getting to the ECF or something? NO! we already haev an old pOS in vin baker we barely use.

nope it never will BRIGGS...unless of course we can bring in your annointed savior of the Knicks, Jesus Rahim.
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1/21/2005  1:53 PM
Can we just cut the crop and do something to truly upgrade this louzy squad??? We have played around too freaking much. There is no way in hell any team in this league will allow a blockbuster deal to happen with N.Y involve. We have too many bad contracts and too little desirable talents. Beside Marb, Crawf, Sweet, and Ariza, we really don't have anyone that other teams truly desire. Trade what we can and build little by little. One thing is for sure, Kurt has to go this season
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1/21/2005  1:55 PM
WOW, Peter Vescey called it on the spot.
He said it was going to happen today from the NYpost....
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1/21/2005  1:57 PM
Posted by diderotn:

Can we just cut the crop and do something to truly upgrade this louzy squad??? We have played around too freaking much. There is no way in hell any team in this league will allow a blockbuster deal to happen with N.Y involve. We have too many bad contracts and too little desirable talents. Beside Marb, Crawf, Sweet, and Ariza, we really don't have anyone that other teams truly desire. Trade what we can and build little by little. One thing is for sure, Kurt has to go this season


thats why the rose/marshall trade makes evn more sense eventhough we'd be ripping off toronto
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1/21/2005  2:00 PM
I really don't give a damn at this point, but something has to freaking be done. Kurt has been part of trade rumors since he has been with the Knicks, the time has come for him to finally depart our team......Marshal is even a better upgrade than Kurt, because he is a little more athletic and Rose is a much better upgrade than TT at this point......He has a big mouth, but he will not shy away from battles....I have watched him go toe to toe with Jordan, that boy is fearless unlike TT


Posted by gunsnewing:
Posted by diderotn:

Can we just cut the crop and do something to truly upgrade this louzy squad??? We have played around too freaking much. There is no way in hell any team in this league will allow a blockbuster deal to happen with N.Y involve. We have too many bad contracts and too little desirable talents. Beside Marb, Crawf, Sweet, and Ariza, we really don't have anyone that other teams truly desire. Trade what we can and build little by little. One thing is for sure, Kurt has to go this season


thats why the rose/marshall trade makes evn more sense eventhough we'd be ripping off toronto
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1/21/2005  2:02 PM
i'm sure Isiah's working on it dude...relax...he can't just force teams to deal w/him & get raped in the process...if he makes a deal, he needs to make sure it makes sense for the Knicks as well.
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1/21/2005  2:26 PM
Nothing won't be done!!! You know why?? cause there's too many rumors going on..

When Marbury got traded to the knicks, no one knew it was coming..

When Van Horn/Doleac got traded away for Nazr/Tim Thomas, no one knew that was coming either..

Watch!!!! IT'll comes as a surprise when it happens.....
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1/21/2005  2:33 PM
Posted by WOODMANnYk:

Nothing won't be done!!! You know why?? cause there's too many rumors going on..

When Marbury got traded to the knicks, no one knew it was coming..

When Van Horn/Doleac got traded away for Nazr/Tim Thomas, no one knew that was coming either..

Watch!!!! IT'll comes as a surprise when it happens.....

the Crawford trade for deke, Othella & Frank was all over the papers weeks before it happened. so it goes both ways
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1/21/2005  4:13 PM
the only thing I got out of this was that an expiring contract CAN give you the opportunity to upgrade your roster.

Haven't seen the little man play much, but he did give Marb fits in the preseason and seemed good in the Olympics.

Wow. Detriot got much better.
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1/21/2005  4:41 PM
Posted by martin:

the only thing I got out of this was that an expiring contract CAN give you the opportunity to upgrade your roster.

Haven't seen the little man play much, but he did give Marb fits in the preseason and seemed good in the Olympics.

Wow. Detriot got much better.

But, seriously, EVERYONE gives Marbury fits. I'm willing to give him a pass and say his ankles aren't what they used to be.
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1/21/2005  4:57 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

thats a pretty darn good bench upgrade. look at the way they do things, we have all seen how good arroyo is and he is under very little pressure because hes a back up+ gives them safety if Billups gets hurt. Not much money and quite a tradeable contract at any point.
On top of it, its likely they will get Cambell back, unless denver swipes him

The knicks should sign Campbell for size alone and drop Sundov if Utah drops him.
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1/21/2005  5:05 PM
Something noone mentioned.....trading Elden opens up some minutes for Darko....
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1/21/2005  5:16 PM
Originally posted by BRIGGS:

thats a pretty darn good bench upgrade. look at the way they do things, we have all seen how good arroyo is and he is under very little pressure because hes a back up+ gives them safety if Billups gets hurt. Not much money and quite a tradeable contract at any point.
On top of it, its likely they will get Cambell back, unless denver swipes him

i wonder why DEN would want to swipe that 36 year old player that you think would be a useless signing? the Nuggets are a vastly better team than we are i guess? i guess they're that 1 Elden Campbell away from the championship & we're not, eh BRIGGS?
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1/22/2005  5:41 AM
am i alone to think the jazz got robbed there, thought they didn't have the choice cause of the arroyo-sloan situation ?

bad point for arroyo, he's leaving an extremly disciplined coach for an extremly disciplined coach.
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