After Lenny is gone you still have a very poorly constructed team. Even if this is a "work in progress", they're still building around Marbury and Crawford. Marbury is a me-first type player who puts up great numbers but they never seem to amount to much in terms of the only thing that matters, wins. Crawford is a chucker with a low basketball IQ. Is it really a coincidence that both of their former teams have gotten markedly better since they've left?

How are they supposed to add the big man that they desperately need when they've limited themselves to mid round draft picks and players whose current teams don't want and would rather have the cap space instead?

All the Knicks have done under Isiah is taken one small step forward (making the playoffs and gaining back some credibility) and taken 2 huge steps back (losing said credibility by becoming an embarrassingly bad team and being stuck with not only Houston but Marbury and Crawford and whoever else they overpay for this summer as they continue to throw good money after bad).

For those of you who are now "glad" that the Knicks might be a lottery team, I thought you couldn't become that bad in NY? I thought NY fans would never stand for that? Isn't that why they just had to overpay for Marbury the way they did and make the moves that they have, because it's not possible to "rebuild" like that in NY? If they were going to stink like this they would have been better off paring as much salary as they could with their expiring contracts while really tanking games so they could draft high in the lottery starting with last season.

There are so many things wrong with the Knicks right now, I honestly don't even know where to begin, but getting rid of Lenny would be like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. At this point there's no reason for it because it wouldn't do any good. There's no other alternative out there and it wouldn't change the fact that this team just isn't very good.

Are you ever gonna post when the Knicks are on a winning streak or do you just go into hiding then?

everyone at this point knows this is not a very good team but it should be the best team in the division and at least get a round in the playoffs to justify the $103mil payroll. They are severely underachieving thanks to Lenny and Zeke won't have it even if it makes him lookbad. What makes him look worse is when all the players come out and say that it is not Lenny's fault. By saying that, they are taking a shot at how Zeke put this team together. Lenny is way too laid back for this team and doesn't teach defense and hardwork first. Anyone who doesn't see that Lenny is the wrong guy for this team needs their eyes checked.

coaching can make a huge difference (memphis) but dam dude who coaches crawford to chuck so much crap?


we need a coach that will not be affraid to bench him if he is 3 for 10 and continues to fire shots.

i am so sick of seeing him chuck garbage.

Posted by turtle33:

coaching can make a huge difference (memphis) but dam dude who coaches crawford to chuck so much crap?


we need a coach that will not be affraid to bench him if he is 3 for 10 and continues to fire shots.

i am so sick of seeing him chuck garbage.

wait a second, i thought we were losing because craw was out? i guess there is a reason why no one wanted craw for the loot we paid him.

People like to delue themsevles, as in, if we fire Lenny, this team will turn it around...

If Craw comes back, we will turn it around...

If JYD starts we will turn it around...

If Houston comes back we will turn it around...

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah...

The teams is bad, accept it or continue to be frustrated. I for once enjoye the game for a change today, despite the loss, it was still a ball game, there some nice plays. Be basketball fans, just enjoy the game.

look... if we got bigs first... guys like Sheed or Rahim and we still have Anderson, Eisly, gimpy Houston and Ward on the wings we wouldnt be any different.

How is Marbury a me first type player? Because he can score? The guys biggest problem is his ability to attack the rim and create for himself. Maybe moving him to 2 is the answer.. I dont know. I do know that the problem with the team isnt Marbury.. its what we get at the 3/4 every night and last night was no difference. TT sucks eggs and Jalen and Donyell lit up whoever we had there. KT plays like guard who rebounds while Bosh takes it to the hole.

We have good resources this offseason to address these needs while getting younger at the same time.