This is more of a reason not to acquire a loser like Jalen Rose and push Ariza to the end of the bench.

Also, seeing a guy like Ariza, this is just another feather in Isiah's hat for his great drafting record. McGrady, Camby (before the injuries), Damon (before the weed avg. 20 and 10), and now Ariza. GET THIS MAN DRAFT PICKS. If the Knicks can get some picks just thrown into deals, even a seemingly insignificant 2nd rounder, Isiah has the chance to make it mean something.

This is also a reason to trade the vets and let these young guys play. They might lose some more, but with this team, to me, you plan for down the road. Get some picks, get some younger players, and build. Don't be content with finishing 40-42, winning the Atlantic, and getting their **** pushed in 2nd round by a Miami or Cleveland.

ariza at this point is untradeable as far as i'm concerned.

secondly, i know curry has about 3" on sweetney but damned if sweetney can have the offense run through him. they have the same game on the offensive end and you can make a case that sweetney had a bigger impact and may be better b/c he gets to the line. curry was nowhere to be found in the 2nd half. but i agree, if we keep sweets, then we need to get a two headed monster at the C position that can play defense. splitting the MLE between hunter and gadzuric, as the worst case scenario would be fine with me.

both sides make valid points but playa2 you have to let go of the pass and live in the present. ariza makes up for just about everything

i'm not sold on sweetney fat albert looking self but ariza has earned his stay

matt i got to get me an ariza jersey myself

i wonder if i can get one off ebay.com and put koopsta knicca on the front

don't be hating

Ariza was great, and hey we lost today, and ariza got his shot blocked late, but as he said, he will learn from this, and believe me as he learns more, the knicks will win more, at 17-19 we still are in first place, the knicks if they keep letting ariza and sweetney log big minutes, come late in the season they will be more prepared for big games. Houston, I feel sorry for him, he phsically just can't do it right now, I mean he got his jumper blocked by Hinrich.. come on man, he hurts us on both sides of the ball now, and this is where we need crawford..

Posted by tkf:

Ariza was great, and hey we lost today, and ariza got his shot blocked late, but as he said, he will learn from this, and believe me as he learns more, the knicks will win more, at 17-19 we still are in first place, the knicks if they keep letting ariza and sweetney log big minutes, come late in the season they will be more prepared for big games.

Last thing we need is a trade for Jalen Rose.

Posted by islesfan:

Is Ariza starting the All Star game yet? Geez, you guys are unreal when it comes to this kid. The kid is nothing but an energy guy with athleticism. His basketball skills are still extremely raw, he has no offensive game to speak of. But I guess that's enough to make him the starting SF for the next decade. Oh wait, he had one good statistical game so that must be enough too.

Ariza is another Gerald Wallace type player. Let's stop trying to make him out to be so much more.

Guy you should have watched yesterday's game before being so definitive. His jump shot was as good as any sf's in the game yesterday.

Posted by islesfan:

Is Ariza starting the All Star game yet? Geez, you guys are unreal when it comes to this kid. The kid is nothing but an energy guy with athleticism. His basketball skills are still extremely raw, he has no offensive game to speak of. But I guess that's enough to make him the starting SF for the next decade. Oh wait, he had one good statistical game so that must be enough too.

Ariza is another Gerald Wallace type player. Let's stop trying to make him out to be so much more.

not for nothing isles, but i'm sure EVERYBODY here would be thrilled if he was a gerald wallace type player. seriously, if layden kept bringing in players like this, he'd still have his job. gerald wallace is a starting SF and will be a very nicely PAID starting SF after this season. ariza is EXACTLY the type of player we should've been bringing in since 01, and he's only 19. how can you not be happy that we have a player with tremendous "potential" like this? don't let the fact that you hate isiah and everything isiah related cloud your optimisim about trev. this is the type of player you DRAFT if you "blow it up" and rebuild.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 01/16/2005 12:26:43]

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by Marv:

Posted by islesfan:

Is Ariza starting the All Star game yet? Geez, you guys are unreal when it comes to this kid. The kid is nothing but an energy guy with athleticism. His basketball skills are still extremely raw, he has no offensive game to speak of. But I guess that's enough to make him the starting SF for the next decade. Oh wait, he had one good statistical game so that must be enough too.

Ariza is another Gerald Wallace type player. Let's stop trying to make him out to be so much more.

Guy you should have watched yesterday's game before being so definitive. His jump shot was as good as any sf's in the game yesterday.

Oh, well that settles it. He had one decent game shooting the ball and I guess he's another Larry Bird. When he puts up a shot from beyond 12 ft, do you think it's automatically going in and surprised when it doesn't or are you praying that it goes in and surprised when it does?

The last few games his shot has been more and more consistent. It seems to coincide with his putting a higher arc on it. Yesterday he had an all-around game with a consistent jumpshot. It seems to be getting more automatic and less "prayerful" as it was earlier in the season.

You'd be more believable as a poster if you didn't feel you had to resort to hyperbole so much (e.g. the Larry Bird stuff). The kid's developing a jumper that's becoming more and more reliable. It's evident to those who watch him. Along with his high-energy athletic game and defensive presence it makes for a legitimately optimistic picture for this kid. Is that really too much for you to handle? Yoiu only make yourself look ignorant when you pull this "Larry Bird" crap in the face of people acknowledging his developing all-around game that more and more is including a reliable jumpshot.