diderotn, your logic is seriously flawed. The players play, the coaches coach.

Marbury is more of a team leader.

Sweets is MUCH better than last year.

Nazr is MUCH better than Sweet's "MUCH better".

That's what coaching has done.

Just because the players can't execute what the coaches teach does not absolutely make a bad coach.

Please, use some sense.

i will agree that lenny makes poor substitution changes, ie letting penny getting minutes over ariza, sundov playing over baker. also i dont like how lenny coaches close games near the end of the 4th quarter....but, our young players are getting better.

Anybody ever think that Lenny finally realizes what he got himself into and really is just going to thru the motions and deep inside wants to bounce and understands he will still get paid, as old as he is he doesn't need to be disrespected by some young guns who never won anything.

... well, unfortunately that's no longer possible.

Of course... I was praying for the deal myself.

Lenny is worse than Chaney and Chaney was bad but you would have a hard time convincing me he was any worse than Chaney. Lenny has more talent to work with but the KNicks are only 3 games ahead of last years pace with Chaney and he had very little to work with.

Posted by Vmart:

Lenny is worse than Chaney and Chaney was bad but you would have a hard time convincing me he was any worse than Chaney. Lenny has more talent to work with but the KNicks are only 3 games ahead of last years pace with Chaney and he had very little to work with.

Vmart great post! At least Chaney wanted a chance to a pg in Marbury, but instead had eisley and ward.

Guys here don't understand we are getting the same goose egg from the same goose. More feathers but the same ugly duckling!

Posted by fishmike:

again... VMart.. what team has less talent than us but a better record. I look at our roster and our frontcourt and we are right about where we should be.

Fish, I thought this team was at best going to be at most 5 games above .500 or 5 games Below with that said they are right where they should be you are right. But this is what is frustrating to me and hard to accept. Thats why I think Sweetney needs to be starting not for this year but for the future is KT a part of the NYK future I highly doubt that this is called wasting time. That is why I'm willing to trade just about anyone for a players with potential.

Yes this team is where it should be when you have a coach who is the winningest coach and the losingest it mean right where they should be. When you take Marbury's career record into account the Knicks are right where they should be. When you take Crawford record into account the kNicks are where they should be. This team is an F'ing joke. Sick of this team and the players and IT is included. I don't want another playoff birth with a sorry team it mean nothing it doesn't inspire hope in me and a .500 team never will. Unless IT steps up and brings in a coach who knows winning only. This team won't go anywhere that is the first step toward winning on a consistent level.

Lenny isn't the answer he can't even teach defense so how will this team ever be consistent. I'm Watching Nat McMillian its not like he has loads of talent on the team if anything they might have less but its his ability to get them to work cohesively that is putting the Sonics where they are. D'antoni on the Suns is doing an exceptional job he has a lot of talent but he isn't wasting the talent he took his talent and gave them an identity probably the most important thing to a group of players could have. Can someone please tell me what the NYK identity is as a team are they half court, defensive, running team. No one knows what they are trying ot accomplish not even Lenny the culprit whose job is to give the team an identity. I look at teams like the Nets whose identity was to run, Pistons who identity was defense, Spurs defense, Lakers Shaq/Kobe and triangle. You will never see a team that gets to the finals with out an identity and the Knicks my friends don't have one so they won't even be sniffing the finals. Its sad but it is true and that is Lenny's job and he isn't doing it. Thats why he needs to go.

Anderson(6.6) Penny(14.6) Houston(17.5) Thomas(12.9) Baker(3.4) Norris(3.8) Ameachi(2.8)

Thats a total of 61.6million dollars.

With the total production of 30pts, 9.8rebs, 6.4assist, 2.3stls, .8bkls between them. Thats the real problem. The only way out is patience and let them expire as we continue to build with Marbury, Crawford, Ariza, Sweetney. Don't give up on them unless its offers we can't refuse. And keep adding young pieces. IF we could follow through with the plan we would be way better off in the long run. By the time Lennys contract is over so will all these bad contracts and we could start fresh with Marbury(31), Crawford(27), Ariza(22), Sweetney(24) and they would have played together for 3-4yrs plus with whoever else we add. It will be rough with the ups and downs but the development of Marbury to truely be the best PG in the NBA, Crawford shot selection & defense, Ariza strength, handle, Jumper, Sweetney consistancy & help D is more important than wins and loses this yr.

For this season im just praying we make playoffs and not have to face Heat-Indy-Pistons in the first rd. We rip it up in the first rd and fight hard in the 2nd. TT-KT-Narz play so well in the post season there value sky rockets for the offseason. Marbury-Crawford-Ariza-Sweetney show a lot of improvement.

Disecting every game is to much work so instead I took the lazy way and decided to look at the bigger picture for this yr and how can we really benifit from it since there is no realistic shot at a championship.