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djsunyc
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12/31/2004  8:42 PM
UNRESTRICTED

PG

1. Bobby Jackson - Sacramento
2. Earl Watson - Memphis
3. Gary Payton - Boston
4. Brevin Knight - Charlotte
5. Jeff McInnis - Cleveland
6. Antonio Daniels (player option) - Seattle
7. Damon Stoudamire - Portland
8. Nick Van Exel (team option)(most likely will retire) - Portland
9. Damon Jones (player option) - Miami
10. Keyon Dooling (player option) - Miami
11. Tyronn Lue - Atlanta
12. Frank Williams - Chicago

Swingmen

1. Ray Allen - Seattle
2. Michael Redd (player option) - Milwaukee
3. Larry Hughes - Washington
4. Latrell Sprewell - Minnesota
5. Bonzi Wells (team option) - Memphis
6. Cuttino Mobley (player option) - Orlando
7. Kerry Kittles - LA Clippers
8. Raja Bell - Utah
9. Glen Robinson - Philadelphia
10. Kareem Rush - Charlotte
11. Jon Barry - Houston
12. Bostjan Nachbar - New Orleans
13. Rodney Rogers - New Orleans

Big Men

1. Zydrunas Illugauskas - Cleveland
2. Stromile Swift - Memphis
3. Antoine Walker - Atlanta
4. Shareef Abdur-Rahim - Portland
5. Donyell Marshall - Toronto
6. Dikember Mutombo - Houston
7. Jerome James - Seattle
8. Aaron Williams (player option) - Toronto
9. Robert Traylor (team option) - Cleveland
10. Dale Davis - Golden State
11. Clifford Robinson (team option) - Golden State

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PG

1. Marko Jaric - LA Clippers
2. Steve Blake (early bird rights) - Washington
3. Chris Duhon (non-bird rights) - Chicago

Swingmen

1. Joe Johnson - Phoenix
2. Ronald Murray - Seattle
3. Kyle Korver (early-bird rights) - Philadelphia
4. Keith Bogans - Charlotte
5. Gerald Wallace - Charlotte
6. Devin Brown - San Antonio
7. Jason Kapono - Cleveland
8. DaJuan Wagner - Cleveland
9. Luke Walton - LA Lakers
10. Kedrick Brown - Philadelphia

Bigs

1. Eddy Curry - Chicago
2. Samuel Dalembert - Philadelphia
3. Tyson Chandler - Chicago
4. Kwame Brown - Washington
5. Eddy Griffin (non-bird rights) - Minnesota
6. Udonis Haslem (early bird rights) - Miami
7. Jamal Sampson - Charlotte
8. Dan Gadzuric - Milaukee
9. Zaza Pachulia (early bird rights) - Milwaukee
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MaTT4281
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12/31/2004  8:53 PM
One of the guys who catches my eye, and may be available, is Kareem Rush.
Or, you know, we could always sign Frank Williams.
Knicksfan
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12/31/2004  9:16 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:

One of the guys who catches my eye, and may be available, is Kareem Rush.
Or, you know, we could always sign Frank Williams.

Would like to have him back, he was good for us and played very good defense. Now, Isiah maybe would just bring him back because, you know, you always need a throw in... (poor Franky...)
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12/31/2004  10:32 PM
I would really like to have Kwame Brown or SARS. Sars would be a perfect fit. I doubt we can get Curry since he is starting to play well.
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BRIGGS
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12/31/2004  11:43 PM
how about

steve hunter 3 years with team option for 4 at 2.5mm per
earl watson 3 years 6mm
Trade KT TT and Sweetney for Artest Pollard and Austin Croshere

Trade # 16th pick in the draft+ Ariza +2mm in cash for PF Chris Wilcox


C- Nazr 6-10 250
PF Wilcox 6-10 240
SF Artest 6-7 245
SG Houston 6-6 225
PG Marbury 6-1 200
C- Hunter 7-0 240
PF Croshere 6-10 245
SF Williams 6-9 215
SG Crawford 6-5 180
PG Watson 6-1 195


please beat that:>)
RIP Crushalot😞
franco12
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1/1/2005  6:00 AM
Briggs- I am not so sure getting Artest is a good move- I mean, can he clean up his act? He's been having more or less the same problme (flagrants, bad behavour) for a while- its not an isolated incident like Sprewell- and even he had his constant problems (contract demands, late arrivals, etc)

There is no doubt that he can be had- perhaps even for less than what you propose. And, we'd probably be one of the few teams who stand a reasonable chance of aquiring him and straightening his head out.
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1/1/2005  6:02 AM
And of the bigs mentioned here- who can we realistically get without room under the cap?
Knicksfan
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1/1/2005  7:47 AM
Wow, losing our two drafted youngsters in the same offseason... It may make us better but I don't like it for that. I would like to keep both, or at least one. Its always good to root for a homegrown player...
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1/1/2005  7:53 AM
For starters, give me Curry, Dalembert or Brown if it is possible. One of them could make our team so much better, even more if we still have Nazr.

Now, if thats not possible you always make a pitch for a guy like Swift because who knows how much he will really demand or if he just wants the money or playing to win. After that you can go cheaper and sign Steve Hunter (I don't see his name there but I think he will be a free agent) or a guy like Gadzuric.

(Man, if Curry wanted badly to play again with Crawford...)
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djsunyc
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1/1/2005  9:59 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:

how about

steve hunter 3 years with team option for 4 at 2.5mm per
earl watson 3 years 6mm
Trade KT TT and Sweetney for Artest Pollard and Austin Croshere

Trade # 16th pick in the draft+ Ariza +2mm in cash for PF Chris Wilcox


C- Nazr 6-10 250
PF Wilcox 6-10 240
SF Artest 6-7 245
SG Houston 6-6 225
PG Marbury 6-1 200
C- Hunter 7-0 240
PF Croshere 6-10 245
SF Williams 6-9 215
SG Crawford 6-5 180
PG Watson 6-1 195


please beat that:>)

looks like briggs wasn't just drinking apple cider.
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1/1/2005  10:35 AM


Again, trading Sweetney and/or Ariza is....a hard pill to swallow if for just one....but together it's just plain ol' ABSURD. I remember a few months back when a poster put up the "Preposterous Trade Proposal" commerical (great by the way). The above ideas fall squarely in that category so this will be the last time i'll waste my breath on it.....So respectfully to all that care to hear, listen up.

1. At this time, Isiah wouldn't trade both Ariza and Sweetney together and highly unlikely,
seperately (maybe in a few years). If he wanted to do that he would have when Chicago
was offering Curry for Sweetney + whatever. Also....and ya gotta try to remember this
part because it's critical....in the "Real World" loyalty does indeed play a part in business
decisions (i.e. Bush + Chaney, Chaney + Halliburton, Bird + Ainge, Isiah + Aquirre,
Isiah/Aquirre + Marbury, Sweetney & Ariza, etc.). Got It?

2. Wheewwww (takes a deep breath)......okay, here goes....ISIAH is HATED by BIRD and
AINGE. There will NOT be any.....(repeat) NOT BE ANY TRADES between the two
involving ARTEST. Proof of the above, (SHEED to NYC nixed by AINGE, Isiah FIRED
from Pacers, etc). This is not Quantum Physics.... (simple question) Why would Bird
trade Artest to Isiah (whom he unceremoniously FIRED) so that it/Artest/Isiah could
come back to bite him?....IT WON'T HAPPEN. Alright, okay...you sure you got
it.....alright, do you have any questions...no...okay, good....so everybodys clear on
that.....GOOD.
Bonn1997
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1/1/2005  10:52 AM
I like Udonis Haslem or Gerald Wallace if we can get one of them for the full MLE. I think Haslem can play SF or PF.
franco12
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1/1/2005  1:29 PM
Bird would trade Artest to Isiah if the Knicks were offering the most talent, Bird thought he absolutely had to be rid of Artest and if he thought Artest was a ticking time bomb that would blow up in Isiah's face.
JUNKMEIN
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1/1/2005  2:57 PM
Nope, wouldn't happen. Too much history in this circumstance and logic doesn't apply.
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1/1/2005  3:05 PM
Bottom line!!! Our backcourt is completely locked for yrs to come.. Isaih will be trying to improve the frontcourt area.

It's possible that Ariza and Sweetney will eventually take over @ the 3 and 4 spots as starters but you never know..

I think Isiah will try and pick up young talented defensive type frontcourt players with sound offensive games..
He'll probably be aiming for Eddy Curry or Kwame Brown..
The Future. GO KNICKS!
JYD31
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1/1/2005  5:28 PM
Wat the hell would we want chris wilcox for. Whats he bringing to the team thats not already here???
Marv
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1/1/2005  5:35 PM
Posted by JYD31:

Wat the hell would we want chris wilcox for. Whats he bringing to the team thats not already here???

A 4/5 with size, mad ups, finishing skills, ability run the floor, D, size, strength, big upside. Why would we possibly not want that?
Bonn1997
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1/1/2005  6:06 PM
Posted by JYD31:

Wat the hell would we want chris wilcox for. Whats he bringing to the team thats not already here???
Actually, he has about 1000 different skills that our team needs
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