Posted by TMS:

i don't see the logic behind that deal for the Sixers personally...i think Dalembert's a better talent than Nene is as well.

I don't see the logic for the Nuggets either. They're UNDER the cap and very careful about how they spend moeny. They don't need to take a gamble and use up invaluable cap space on someone like Jamal Crawford who has a ton of potential and also a ton of flaws. The only team this works for is the Knicks, which means this is a typical 3 way deal proposal on this site!

I don't like the trade for anybody.......

You guys want Dalembert so bad.....Nazr has been the main offensive rebounder for the Knicks. How many tip ins does he get per game? Nazr is a guy team have to focus on to box out cuz he will kill you on those type of plays.

Respect what Nazr does and stop getting infatuated with the block shot.

Nazr is the Knicks center.....who cares how young Dalembert is? Dalembert will be a nice player soon but Nazr is a nice player now. The Knicks need to fix the problems they have now rather than stack players just to awe in what they can be.

Posted by EnySpree:

I don't like the trade for anybody.......

You guys want Dalembert so bad.....Nazr has been the main offensive rebounder for the Knicks. How many tip ins does he get per game? Nazr is a guy team have to focus on to box out cuz he will kill you on those type of plays.

Respect what Nazr does and stop getting infatuated with the block shot.

Nazr is the Knicks center.....who cares how young Dalembert is? Dalembert will be a nice player soon but Nazr is a nice player now. The Knicks need to fix the problems they have now rather than stack players just to awe in what they can be.

What kind of nonsensical point are you trying to make? you're saying Dalembert is nothing but a shotblocker? so his rebounding, running the floor, defense, finishing ability, age & upside don't apply in this discussion? dude, no one, & i mean NO ONE here is DISrespecting Nazr Mohammed...the fact that he's playing so well is the only reason why we can even discuss the fact that this trade could have a chance of even happening...the way you speak of Dalembert it's as if you consider him to be nothing more than just some Adonal Foyle type player or something.

Posted by MaTT4281:

Sorry Eny, but we really do need some defense at the C. If not the 5, what position do we need help in?
I like the rotations at the 1, 2, and 3 positions (Marbury/Houston/Craw/TT (if he can keep playing pretty well)/JYD/Ariza)
At the 4, I suppose if it would make you feel better, we could try to trade Kurt and move Nazr to PF, splitting minutes with Sweetney.
If you are able to bring in a guy like Dalembert at the 5, you just do.

Anyway, with that said, I think Crawford may be too steep of a price for Dalembert right now, but I suppose a pick could be a very nice thing to obtain.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 12/30/2004 10:26:51]

well said. It may be too steep a price, but I just know that after a trade like this is made we could easily pull the trigger on the KT for wally trade or some other trade involving a big for a swingman. If we did this initial trade, and then use our big man surplus with a pick to get a swingman, we could have just made the moves necassary to compete for the eastern conference finals.

And this does make sense for the other teams.
Denver needs a 2 and craw would add much needed firepower to their offense. He could make them a good team. They would all be young and athletic.

Philly gets rid of a bad contract and gets a comparable young big in return. Daly may be a better talent, but this proposal does make some sense. Whether they do it or not is another question but this helps them take some money off the books while still retaining young big athletic talent.

The Knicks probably give up the most because Craw is somewhat proven, I mean he is averaging 18 a game, but we get a defensive athletic 7 footer wih serious upside, a throw-in big and a pick. It is a risk but all trades are one way or another. And this risk solidifies us at the 4/5 with young talent and makes us have to find help in a position that it is far easier to get help in, the 2.

Bonn

for you to say this is a 3 way deal that only benefits the knicks is ridiculous. The knicks give up the only 'proven' player in this trade and take back a bad contract in the process. If anything the knicks would probably be last to do it, it just depends on what IT's vision for the future is. I like Craw, but I would rather use him to get a big, I think his game and lack of size are not what we need. 2's are far easier to come by. Wally would do us good at the 2 for example. We don't need a superstar 2, we need a decent to good 2 who can hit an open shot or slash because he will be sharing minutes with H20.

[Edited by - killa4luv on 12/30/2004 10:43:21]

for a big man to be able to finish on the break requires good hands- with Iverson breaking out with steals and his quickness, should dalembert be averaging a few more points.

Plus, his FT % sucks- and as a big on the break and with dish offs near the basket, your going to get fouled and it helps if you shoot higher than 50% for your FTs.

.. and I'll continue to covet Eddie Curry.

lol

Houston can barely get off the ground and you're trading Crawford for potential? My opinion is, he's not nearly as good as you think and his upside is what somebody else mentioned... a nice shot blocker.

I said my peace about Dalembert. Overrated and I'm not interested.

Sorry.

Actually saying the reason to acquire Dalembert is an effort to "build a championship team"... is kind of funny.