Editorial by Nuno Cardoso / Dec. 25, 2004

TORONTO, Canada -- I don't want to get too far into this Vince Carter thing. I mean, he's left Toronto and still gets more play in the media than he deserves. I know he was an important part in the basketball explosion in the city and even in the country, but that era is over and we need to learn to move on. Toronto is the "good guy" who got his heart crushed at the dance when the hot girl decided she was no longer interested in him and wants to go home with the grimy bad boy.

There is something disturbing about a player claiming that he will "make people eat their words." What words? That Carter is soft? That he can't effectively drive to the basket? That if he gets hit inside, he will settle for jump shots the rest of the night, if not for a whole road trip or home stand? That he wants superstar money without superstar expectations?

The truth is that all these questions were raised because of Carter's attitude and on court displays, not because we are bored and have nothing better to do. His implication that we were all wrong and will eat our words implies he knows that he can do all those things that people were faulting him for and the he will now show us.

Carter seems ready to shatter some of that integrity by openly displaying that he was just coasting it in Toronto for the last 2-3 seasons, and if he can't or doesn't, the media and the fans in New Jersey and New York won't offer him nearly as much leeway and patience as their Toronto counter parts did.


This is why we were fools not to get this guy for Crawford, he wanted out of Toronto and knew the "ONLY" way he was gonna get traded was by not showing up dogging it.

Carter's a bum and im happy we didnt get him

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by NYK3:

Carter's a bum and im happy we didnt get him

exactly, anyone who would just "dog" it for years to get traded is :-(

YEP, this guy is a professional athlete who gets paid millions and millions of dollars and he "dogs" it just to get traded, IMO thats a disgrace

[Edited by - NYK3 on 12/26/2004 14:51:14]

Posted by playa2:



The problem with playing for the raptors is the ownership sucks.

The are not dedicated to doing what it takes to get them to the next level.

They continue hiring rookie GM's and rookie coaches out side of Lenny Wilkens.


All they want is to fill the seats without making a legit run at a title and VC found that out while being there 7 yrs.

I don't believe he dogged it all his yrs in Toronto , if he did he would have never been "VINSANITY"

Any of you wanna raise your children in Canada?

Remember Antonio Davis wanted out of Toronto and didn't want to raise his kids there.

So Carter's poor play was everyone's fault except his own?

of couse he knows what time it is....that's why he made a promose to ratner? btw play dog, butch cater was the best coach vinsanity had in toronto, lol

not the knicks, we need guys like this!

He just sat on the sideline of the nets game with a cramp for almost 10 minutes. If it's not a cramp, he's done for hte year. So...The oft injured superstar will be voted to start the all star game and WILL NOT relinquish the starting position so that he can play that game (positive he will be healthy that week) and then back to the IR he will go.

He lost his passion...play through it, or don't play at all...but quit the "you will see" and the "I'll show you's".

He pretty much forced mcgrady out of toronto and lenny and butch and the last GM and and and.

he's garbage. face it.

it looked ugly. I think it was more than just a cramp..he wasn't able to move! and he was in so much pain! it has to be the hamstring and the aftermath of Frank playing him 40mins his first game back from a lef injury! thats just ridiculous..so glad the Nets snatched him away from us!

haha Nets fans are calling this a cramp without even realizing that he may be gone for a while and they'll be out of contention after trading what they had for 1 injury prone ex-superstar. It's a little more than just a cramp being that he couldn't move and was in a lot of pain. When you get a cramp you just walk it off

He pretty much forced mcgrady out of toronto and lenny and butch and the last GM and and and.

Yup!

I'm pretty sure the 80 mill and the chance to play in "frigid" Orlando as opposed to "bright and sunny" Toronto had nothing to do with McGrady bouncing...You dont have to lie on the boy and start telling ducktales.

If Butch Carter slapped you in the face there is no way you could describe him to police or know who he is...He hasn't exactly had a hall of fame coaching career since he left Toronto. Duke has been MIA