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Andrew
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2/20/2002  11:22 PM
Thanks to knicksbabyyeah for the new Amare Stoudamire banner. With this last loss to the Bulls, we better start thinking about the draft. We have sunk so far.
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VG
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2/21/2002  12:08 AM
Posted by Andrew:

Thanks to knicksbabyyeah for the new Amare Stoudamire banner. With this last loss to the Bulls, we better start thinking about the draft. We have sunk so far.

Yeah but then Layden will probably screw it all up by trading awawy our pick...
nykfan37
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2/21/2002  12:25 AM
He can't screw it up, He can't trade 2 consecutive 1st rounders
Explosive23
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2/21/2002  6:16 AM
He can't screw it up, He can't trade 2 consecutive 1st rounders

Yay :)
knicksbabyyeah
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2/21/2002  6:47 AM
Bad news guys, this was a discussion that heated abit up on the NYT forum and it seems you can't trade away future consecutive draft picks, but it's theoretically possible to trade your #1 year after year after year just not all at once. The keyword seems to be future, as older trades don't count against the rule anymore. I'm not sure about all of this but I've mailed Larry Coon just to be sure and will get back on this as soon as I get an answer.

Meanwhile check his site, especially #75-77.

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Contents
Andrew
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2/21/2002  7:55 AM
Posted by nykfan37:

He can't screw it up, He can't trade 2 consecutive 1st rounders

Unfortunately, it doesn't prevent him from making a deal that has the Knicks draft a player of another teams choosing and then trading his rights to another team.
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knicksbabyyeah
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2/21/2002  10:21 AM
No that would be trading the player itself, as a rookie contract firstrounder is immediately guaranteed.

anyways, depressing confirmation from the man himself
You cannot make a trade which leaves you without a first
round draft pick in consecutive FUTURE years. Your scenario
is correct -- each year, you could trade away that summer's
first round pick. You may not have a first round pick for
ten years, but as long as you were never without consecutive
future picks, it's okay. So when a team is considering
whether they can trade a future draft pick, it does not
matter what happened with any previous pick.

So a team can trade their '02 pick OR their '03 pick, but not
both. They can trade their '03 pick OR their '04 pick, but
not both. Etc.

Also, the draft pick they have doesn't even have to be THEIR
pick. A team could trade their '02 and '03 picks as long as
the same trade or an earlier trade brings them somebody's
'02 or '03 pick.

Hope this helps,

Larry Coon
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2/21/2002  11:39 AM
Posted by nykfan37:

He can't screw it up, He can't trade 2 consecutive 1st rounders

yea they made that rule for scott layden and the knicks..its called saving the knicks from themselves...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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