I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch, and I'm still happy with where our team is going, its just that games like this are such downers. We dont beat good teams and thats a scary thing.

I understand your feelings, Fish. I hate the fact that they didn't make an effort because if at least they had worked hard an lost by a smaller margin, you would still feel good because at least they fought. I would still be pissed off at them not defeating a good team at home, but an effort would've made my suffering a little easy to carry. But this game was a complete downer! The second time we give a damn about playing at the Garden and let the other team kill us completely! That's inexcusable! Where's your pride? Where is your supposed "love for NY"? How can you dare to have another pathetic defensive night after this game? Pathetic! Deffinitely no effort tonight! And I hate it because you see so much improvement the whole season, then again you have a terrible game like this...

If they aren't extremely ashamed of themselves, like for letting their home crowd terribly down, and play extremely better in the next games, they deserve to be traded...

What bothers me is the guys somewhat lack of pride, I would if I were a knicks player guarding dirk, make him work his azz for to breathe, I mean step up to the challenge, dare to be great for one night, against good competition.. I am a fan of Kt and nazr but not for this knicks team, Kt does what 4 other knicks players can do, he can hit jumpers, well that is not what we need, espcially from the 4 spot, we need a beast down low, could you imagine Dirk having to guard a eddy curry or kwame brown down on the other end of the court, everytime down, I guarantee you he would not be running down the other end setting up for 3's.... This is the biggest problem for the knicks, and believe me teams that are getting away with it now, like the suns and sonics, will realize that being a perimeter team will not win you playoff series. The knicks need some sort of force down low, I mean KT and nazr at times give us nothing down there... hitting the occasional jumper is no big deal for our big men, we have guys who can do that.. we need post play!!

Posted by simrud:

Wow, just came back from a final, Knicks are pathetic.

it's bad when watching a Knicks game is more excruciating than a final.

don't fool yourselves. this team will do the best and the worst.


Yes, we can win against anybody.
But, we can also loose against anybody.

Some games will be a pleasant surprise, others will be awful to watch.

That's just on game, we're still a work in progress.

I'd rather see them beat boston tomorrow. today was part of the learning processs, at least now, we know where we are.

Posted by tkf:

[...clip] This is the biggest problem for the knicks, and believe me teams that are getting away with it now, like the suns and sonics, will realize that being a perimeter team will not win you playoff series.
[clip...]

Dude, you do realize that the suns have a beast down low in Stoudamire who is averaging 25 ppg?

BTW, while NY is scoring 1/2 a point less than the opponent per game
on average, Pheonix is scoring 11.5+ points more than their
opponents per game. Aside from SA (also near 11.5) no other team
in the league is even close.

[Edited by - panos on 12/22/2004 09:04:07]

Maybe last nite WAS the wake up call!

Posted by Nalod:

Maybe last nite WAS the wake up call!

How many more do this team needs?