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Bonn1997
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12/18/2004  9:26 AM
How's Vince gonna play in NJ? I think Kidd will raise Vince's level of play, as will simply being out of Toronto. Injuries have taken a toll on his body; I don't expect him to play as well as he did earlier in his career. I'm expecting something like 20/5/4 with fairly good defense. I'm not worried about the Nets catching the Knicks, though, because the Knicks are so much better at PF/C than the Nets and already have a significant lead. But I think Vince has much more left than some people make it sound like.
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matt
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12/18/2004  9:29 AM
I'm not too sure about this deal for either team. The Nets still don't have a deadly shooter and their front court is almost gone. I can't see them catching up to the Knicks unless the Knicks going on a long losing streak.
Bonn1997
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12/18/2004  9:32 AM
Posted by matt:

I'm not too sure about this deal for either team. The Nets still don't have a deadly shooter and their front court is almost gone. I can't see them catching up to the Knicks unless the Knicks going on a long losing streak.
I agree, but I do think Vince will play better than a lot people made it sound like he could
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12/18/2004  9:33 AM
They will fight for an 8th seed (not saying they'll win it either). Nothing special in the East, but it will get them out of the league cellar.
When all is said and done, I think they get about 38 wins.

[Edited by - MaTT4281 on 12/18/2004 09:33:32]
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12/18/2004  9:38 AM
VC will bring be Driven playing for the Nets. #1 He wanted out of Canada and comments from his former teamtes tells it all.

Donyell Marshall said Vince leaving the raptors is like MJ LEAVING THE BULLS.

Jalen Rose made the comment on my signature that is credible.

Just because VC didn't give full effort in Toronto(because he didn't want to play there anymore) doesn't mean he won't go full tilt in Jersey...Kidd and RJ won't allow it.

I expect him to bring confidence + arrogance to the nets that was there previoulsy with Martin and Kittles.

The old VC will emerge again!

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/18/2004  10:14 AM
Posted by playa2:

VC will bring be Driven playing for the Nets. #1 He wanted out of Canada and comments from his former teamtes tells it all.

Donyell Marshall said Vince leaving the raptors is like MJ LEAVING THE BULLS.

Jalen Rose made the comment on my signature that is credible.

Just because VC didn't give full effort in Toronto(because he didn't want to play there anymore) doesn't mean he won't go full tilt in Jersey...Kidd and RJ won't allow it.

I expect him to bring confidence + arrogance to the nets that was there previoulsy with Martin and Kittles.

The old VC will emerge again!

Playa, be careful, its becoming an obsession...
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12/18/2004  10:15 AM
What I like about this the most is that again both the Knicks and the Nets are playing to win, and that means a rivalry again.
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12/18/2004  10:17 AM
Just like you booing the knicks when they are playing bad in games.

Get a grip partna
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/18/2004  10:35 AM
Posted by playa2:

Just like you booing the knicks when they are playing bad in games.

Get a grip partna

Hey, Im a fan! You expect me to be happy about my team playing like garbage when they are talented enough to have a good game? Like last night's victorious ending erase the fact that they played like garbage the first three quarters. If they deserve to be boooed, believeme they'll be!

Now, your thing with Vince Carter is special... (j/k)

[Edited by - KnicksFan on 12/18/2004 10:35:44]
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12/18/2004  10:54 AM
Vince Carter was, is, and always will be a heartless bum
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12/18/2004  12:12 PM
you know I think a lot of people are underestimated what Kidd, RJ and VC are going to be able to do together- yes they are a bit thin up front- but all three players rebound the ball well and can ignite the fast break

Bonn- don't be so sure that the Knicks have a significant lead- if the Knicks keep playing 500 ball the rest of the year, the Nets might just surprise them
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12/18/2004  12:43 PM
VC will play well-if he has heart it will show. He now has something to prove. That having been said, a number of the isolations that Kidd ran for RJ will now have to go to VC and RJ will have to be more of a post up jumpshooter. VC has never been a great shooter but will get his mid range looks. Rebound and interior defense will be a problem. All in all, a great trio thyat will probably wind up a .500.

The Knx, on the other hand, are learning to play together, use the individual talents and should finish with between 45-50.
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12/18/2004  1:32 PM
any of you guys thinking kidd's gone? are the stingy nets going to pay vince, jefferson, and kidd? i can see kidd getting traded in a package like the carter one, him for a bunch of salary cap fodder role players. maybe to GS for frontcourt players to round out the roster. bottom line, i don't think the nets will hold on to all three, and kidd's been the one rumored to go for a while.
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12/18/2004  1:39 PM
Who knows? Maybe they traded for Carter to make Kidd want to stay. If they trade Kidd they could get some good players in return and be in good shape with Carter and Jefferson.
If NJ wants ton win now they do have to make another move to improve their frontcourt...

Anyway, I'd still like to see how they play all three together...
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12/18/2004  1:43 PM
If the chemistry is right, those three can fly together.

They need some help up front, but Vince has talent, and he has never had a supporting cast like those two around him!

It makes for an interesting rivalry!
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12/18/2004  1:44 PM
Since this is a prediction thread:

I predict Vince will not be a good fit in NJ. Sure its nice to have new scenery but he has moved to the second class team of the metro NY area. The real team plays across the river - regardless of records, who has gone to the finals etc the Knicks will always be NY's team - even if the Nets move to Brooklyn they will always be the New Jersey Nets.

As many have said on this board already - VC is a heartless bum. You do not throw your talent in the garbage and leave your team with no support because you are unhappy. Sure you can demand a trade - but you still need to show up on the court when you play. I wouldnt want that type of player on my team. He has no heart, he has no character, and I have no idea why people still bother to make him an all star - what has he done for anyone lately?
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