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When Houston is ready to start and play around 30 mpg again, who should he replace in the starting lineup?
Tim Thomas
Jamal Crawford
He should stay as the 6th man
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12/17/2004  10:55 AM
The article from the daily news today

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/262821p-225013c.html

Isola thinks the Knicks would be best served if Houston remained the backup. I personally would have no problem starting him at SF. He'd be overmatched on D, but TT dosen't play D either so it's not that big of a downgrade, but it's a major upgrade offensivley.
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12/17/2004  11:08 AM
This is a tough one.

While Allan is an upgrade over TT, he makes us smaller. I can't imagine Allan not getting at least as many rebounds as Ms. Gazy.

Allan will create more of a problem for other teams than he will be a liabilty for us.

He has gotten stronger and full thru the years and at 6-6 is not undersized too badly.

This also gives us time to snap Miss Gazy out of his funk!
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12/17/2004  11:51 AM
Posted by Nalod:

This is a tough one.

While Allan is an upgrade over TT, he makes us smaller. I can't imagine Allan not getting at least as many rebounds as Ms. Gazy.

Allan will create more of a problem for other teams than he will be a liabilty for us.

He has gotten stronger and full thru the years and at 6-6 is not undersized too badly.

This also gives us time to snap Miss Gazy out of his funk!

I can. Allan will average 2rebs while Fu will average 4 eventually. but thats besides the point. Houston offense will have a much bigger impact that gazy ever will. and houston tries harder on defense. I really think houston is going to play hard on defense every game like he did against detroit because he has to do something to please the fans so they don't booo him. i think the boos hurt him
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12/17/2004  11:58 AM
I think that TT has to be the starter no matter what, for one he brings very little to the table and is not going to provide anything off the bench...

I would like to see crawford come of the bench, somewhat like sprewell did his first year...it provides a spark and would give the Knicks a better chance to win if Crawford learns that in order to be a player in this league you need to be patient...

However Crawford might be pissed he isn't starting and shot the ball everytime he gets it...But i think no matter what happens TT is the starter
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12/17/2004  12:12 PM
Posted by MS:

I think that TT has to be the starter no matter what, for one he brings very little to the table and is not going to provide anything off the bench...

I would like to see crawford come of the bench, somewhat like sprewell did his first year...it provides a spark and would give the Knicks a better chance to win if Crawford learns that in order to be a player in this league you need to be patient...

However Crawford might be pissed he isn't starting and shot the ball everytime he gets it...But i think no matter what happens TT is the starter

thats exactly what I see happening. He's going to jack up even more shots and worse shots just tom keep his scoring average up
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12/17/2004  12:26 PM
Whoa, I think Craw was understood that he was going to be behind Allan when the time came in a 3 guard offense. His role would have been well defined as part of any negotiation process.
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12/17/2004  12:34 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Whoa, I think Craw was understood that he was going to be behind Allan when the time came in a 3 guard offense. His role would have been well defined as part of any negotiation process.
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Exactly. Crawford knew he was gonna come after Houston. If Houston has to be inserted in the starting lineup, not only will Craw provide a spark off the bench, he will also be a luxuary for Lenny. He can be inserted for H2O or Stephon and still have an extremely high powered offensive backcourt.
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12/17/2004  12:47 PM
but you can rest stephon and still have Jamal and Houston with TT or rest Jamal and have Steph and Houston on the floor. That works doesn't it? or are you concerned about resting stephon and houston and having craw, moochie and TT on the floor?

How would the rotation work with Houston at SF?
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12/17/2004  12:51 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Whoa, I think Craw was understood that he was going to be behind Allan when the time came in a 3 guard offense. His role would have been well defined as part of any negotiation process.
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Whether or not Crawford would be surprised is not the issue to me. The issue is, is our team better off with Crawford or TT in the starting lineup? At this point, it looks like you need your 3 best players on the floor as much as possible (Jamal, Allan, and Stephon). Their games compliment each other very well. Jamal and Steph can penetrate and create open shots for Houston. Houston can spread out the offense and make it easier for Jamal and Stephon to penetrate.
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12/17/2004  1:34 PM
Because Houston is so consistant, I'd let Crawford start.
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12/17/2004  2:42 PM
What I want to see is if h20 will take it too the hoop.

A few years ago, he did penetrate well. We don't ask him to becasue of where his strenth is outside, but can allan do other things? He is a huge talent, very well coached, very coachable, and I wonder if we cannot see if he can be a REAL sf, not just another guard playing out of position.

Im not saying we just dump Jamal on the bench, but a rotation of Allan, Jamal, Steph, JYD, TT is plenty of minutes!

I would even like for Brewer to get a few minutes!
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12/17/2004  3:32 PM
We have other penetrators (Jamal and Stephon). It should not be Houston's job to take it to the basket. He might get injured or get a lot of TOs if he does that. Maybe he can do it occasionally just to get defenders to give him a little space, though. But what he will really need to work on is rebounding.

I'm kind of excited about a lineup of

Marbury
Crawford
Houston
K. Thomas
Nazy

With Sweetney, Ariza, TT, JYD, and Penny off the bench. They should be able to be an above .500 team
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12/17/2004  3:34 PM
I think that TT has to be the starter no matter what, for one he brings very little to the table and is not going to provide anything off the bench
He's a former 6th man of the year (or maybe runner-up; something like that). He's played outstanding basketball off the bench before. Maybe this change would help him. Maybe it wouldn't, but I'd at least give it a try.
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12/17/2004  3:37 PM
The issue is playing time, not who starts. We can start TT, but Allan and Jamaal should both get starters minutes. Allan will play some 2 and some 3. JYD and Ariza should also get some time at the 3. That way we reduce TT's minutes - which should help us win some games.
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12/17/2004  3:58 PM
Yes ... I care more about who finishes than who starts. IMO, best line-up has Allan starting and Craw providing Vinnie Johnson like spark off the bench. If Allan and Craw are both playing well, they both finish (do offense/defense substitutions w/ JYD in close game). And if Timmy Genious never gets his s**t together, replace him with JYD in the starting lineup. For now, let Timmy keep starting but keep him on the short leash. He needs to get at least 15 mins. a game at least until the trading deadline. Might as well get them out of the way early.
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