From this day on nobody is gonna trust Jamal at the end of a game against a "VETERAN" team.

He doesn't know what it's like to play in a playoff game atmosphere at MSG, VINCE CARTER DOES.

Posted by playa2:

He doesn't know what it's like to play in a playoff game atmosphere at MSG, VINCE CARTER DOES.

Dont compare him to Vince Carter cause he is not Vinage Carter. But please try and make an effort to read the entire quote before you jump to conclusions.

Posted by Silverfuel:

Posted by playa2:

Daily News today:

"Honestly, I'm still going to take bad shots," Crawford said. "It's not that I'm defiant or anything. I'm not going to change overnight. I've grown a lot. Now that I look back (at Chicago) I was taking pretty bad shots. But I'll still take them from time to time."

Are you freaking serious playa? Did you not read the entire quote. He said "I'm not going to change overnight" He is not saying he will never change. This is such bull ****. This entire thread is based on you not reading the freaking quote right!

He even said "I've grown a lot" adding he isnt taking the same number of bad shots he was in Chicago but he still does take some bad shots. He has only been a Knick for 21 games. He does take shoddy shots but for you to misread and entire quote and completely misrepresent it is fu**ing annoying.

Thank God he admits it. I really believe that he leanred a lot yesterday

How many more excuses will we hear today?

Young players who are good and smart won't continute to go from team to team and do the same thing... unless he isn't that smart

only a Playa would suggest trading a 24 year old with the ability to light up a good team on any given night for Vince Carter a guy you don't even know can stay on the court.

Great point Nalon , and this is why Phoenix gave up on him.

Luckily they picked up a mature pg in Nash to lead them.

Posted by playa2:

Great point Nalon , and this is why Phoenix gave up on him.

Luckily they picked up a mature pg in Nash to lead them.

after 22 games. PHX did the right thing for its team. Nash is a much better fit for complimenting the Running Amare and Marion. He makes them better. marbs was not the best point for those two.

Phx is even using Lampe effectively.

All the above has little to do with the Knicks. Would you rather have Nash on this team? He would run too fast for our team! Nash is great, I love watching him play. But your giving up after 22 games?

IM not a card carrying Isiah freak, but I root for the moves he makes to be good long term. I do not agree with everything he has done, but since no one is asking me first, I try to understand and go with the flow.

I hope PHX does well, especially Lampe! I root for Dice to do well also. I don't care if they are Isiahs or Laydens guys, if the are Knicks I want them to do well.

If you want to disect Marbs again and again, go ahead!

Jamal did get a couple of blocks in the game which was suprising and he did lead us in scoring.

I'm waiting on zekes next move, this one will tells us if we are trying to win now or later.

The fact is that this team is mostly about winning in the future, and a little winning now. That's why we may not be more than some games over .500 after the season and thats why we will likely be as inconsistent as we have been.

What I hate but also find hard to hate is the fact that we are inconsistent because we are young and not yet a complete team. This is good because that means that we have nowhere to go but up. But its bad because as a fan you want them to win now and you see them so close to win some games that its frustrating.

Still, a trade for Carter in which you include Crawford is such a terrible mistake for this team. The biggest hope for the future is Crawford, and dealing him for Carter is so stupid and so Layden! Before we make a win-now trade, we have to do another win-in-the-future trade of bringing here a young star Big. That has yet to happen.