This team needs a JVG miracle... this sox...........


......and im getting tired... really....

my patience level with jamal crawford is gone. done. trade him. i don't even care if he puts up thirty in back to back games. he blinds your judgement with scores of good shooting, but he is still an inexperienced ball-chaser. his shot selection belongs in a middle school game in southeast iowa.

right now trade anyone for a guy that can play defense and makes good decisions in the final seconds...

but it's the Detroit Pistons! you didn't hear me say that we played good defense against Orlando & Washington! We played terrible defense those games. This time we actually had a lead against the Pistons which is a miracle in it's self especially since this was a back to back. We were just simply not going to blow out the defending champions! The game was lost because Jamal is an idiot!

Hey, wanna know how did Detroit shoot in the game? You guessed it right: 47%!!! Great D, Knicks, especially in the final seconds when the game was on the line and Detroit could tie the game and score so easily that they called timeouts being down just to design their defense...

Posted by gunsnewing:

but it's the Detroit Pistons! you didn't hear me say that we played good defense against Orlando & Washington! We played terrible defense those games. This time we actually had a lead against the Pistons which is a miracle in it's self especially since this was a back to back. We were just simply not going to blow out the defending champions! The game was lost because Jamal is an idiot!

A miracle to lead the Pistons? The Knicks are a good team if you completely forget that defense exists so it was no miracle. Detroit isn't also the same Detroit, and this was clearly a game we had to win, especially at home. To lead them by so much and losing the game in the final seconds is really absurd. We just had to show some effort in defense and that was it, a sure win. It was an garbage what they showed in the third quarter, and in the final seconds they couldn't stop Detroit from scoring. Jamal may have ended all hopes we could have in the last play, but this game was lost in the third quarter, where we showed that we werent going to play any more defense in the game.

This one really did it...

Posted by Knicksfan:

Hey, wanna know how did Detroit shoot in the game? You guessed it right: 47%!!! Great D, Knicks, especially in the final seconds when the game was on the line and Detroit could tie the game and score so easily that they called timeouts being down just to design their defense...

I know that! but 47% is actually pretty good for the Knicks against the NBA champions! Crawford lost the game! Whoever expected Kurt Thomas who can't hit a clutch shot in his life to go 2 for 2 from the line there doesn't have their head screwed on right!

I agree Silver, the dam game shoulda been over by then

Posted by nyvector16:

This loss definitely hurt...
Hopefully this tough loss will teach this team not to let up after getting a big lead.
And also teach Crawford a lesson of patience and strategic Selectivity on the offensive end...
Not to sound like the hopeless optimist, but perhaps this team needed this loss more than it needed the win...
Our next 5 games are:

1 - @76ers
2 - Jazz
3 - Mavs
4 - @Celtics
5 - Magic


Tough 5 game stretch...
If we win 3 out of the 5.. .we're on our way
it will certainly put this team to the test

How many tough losses we have already had and this team learns nothing? Crawford talks a game where he just wants to win and let others play, but he still makes the mistake of forgeting them...

Tough, very tough schedule ahead. Great thing to lose a win in the final seconds considering your next opponents. This team will never stop being tested because they are so inconsistent that nothing is for granted with them.

exactly but our stars don't play defense. Therefore, we will never be a good defensive team! But if we fix Jamal's brain and Lenny gets them to execute they might win a couple of games

Posted by gunsnewing:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by gunsnewing:

but it's the Detroit Pistons! you didn't hear me say that we played good defense against Orlando & Washington! We played terrible defense those games. This time we actually had a lead against the Pistons which is a miracle in it's self especially since this was a back to back. We were just simply not going to blow out the defending champions! The game was lost because Jamal is an idiot!

A miracle to lead the Pistons? The Knicks are a good team if you completely forget that defense exists so it was no miracle. Detroit isn't also the same Detroit, and this was clearly a game we had to win, especially at home. To lead them by so much and losing the game in the final seconds is really absurd. We just had to show some effort in defense and that was it, a sure win. It was an garbage what they showed in the third quarter, and in the final seconds they couldn't stop Detroit from scoring. Jamal may have ended all hopes we could have in the last play, but this game was lost in the third quarter, where we showed that we werent going to play any more defense in the game.

This one really did it...

I agree about that...don't get me wrong! I couldn't believe how flat they came out to start the 3rd. But is it anything new? They do it all the time! which is why I would love nothing more then to wake up tomorrow and find out that Lenny Wilkens was fired! but he won't be so the best they can do for now is get into Crawford's head!

Im sure that if NY keeps playing like this Lenny will be fired. Not that I hate him or just want him fired because I want to. This team will not improve in the areas that it needs to improve with Lenny there. This will really be a frustrating 41-41 team if things keep going the pathetic way they have been. We are going to make a redord for most 1 point losses in a season...

Get only into Crawford's head?! Get into everyone's head! Even search inside their pants to see if something is missing! Im tired of players that consider themselves offensive players and thats it. Come on!! Defense is 99% effort! You cant tell me that a Marbury can't be a great defender, or at least good. Same thing with the rest of the guys. You may not be great in defense but if you just try your hardest you will surely make something good happen for your team. This team needs a coach that pushes them to the limit on the floor. This team can score, but they just don't give a dam about D most of the games. And I can't stand that!