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MaTT4281
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12/15/2004  3:48 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

we're averaging 96pts per game that 16th in the league http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html

our offense isn't that good without H20...with JYD starting it'll only be worse

Offense is not the problem. It's always going to come back to the D.
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12/15/2004  3:52 PM
but this team will never be a defensive team! Let's at least be a great offensive team
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12/15/2004  3:57 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

we're averaging 96pts per game that 16th in the league http://www.nba.com/statistics/sortable_team_statistics/sortable1.html

our offense isn't that good without H20...with JYD starting it'll only be worse
Our offense cannot get any worse with JYD than it was with TT. TT barely scored, ever! What hurts us more is our defense. Look bro, I am not saying start JYD at SF, I am saying dont start H2O at SF. He will not be very effective as a SF.

Under the circumstances and unfortunately, JYD is a better option thats all. I say unfortunately because he is perfect off the bench but he will be good for the team D as a starter too.
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12/15/2004  4:07 PM
thats the problem..why would you sacrifice the spark that JYD gives them off the bench. With JYD off the bench Lenny can watch the first few minutes of the game and if someone if torching them then he can bring in Jerome to hopefully stop that guy.

Also, if you want Houston to be the scorer off the bench there might be a problem because then he will be forced to take over the game. He can't do that because all he can do is jump shot. But in the starting lineup he will have an easier time scoring.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 12/15/2004 16:07:59]
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12/15/2004  4:11 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

He can't do that because all he can do is jump shot. But in the starting lineup he will have an easier time scoring.
But he wont Rod. He will be sharing the ball with Craw and Steph in the starting Lineup. Craw and Stephon like to shoot and score a lot. They generally dont pass the ball out. So not only is he sharing the ball with these 2 guys that shoot a lot, he will be doing this out of position with a guy bigger and stronger than him. I dont see how he will have an easier time scoring.

I see your point about JYD's energy off the bench being a plus BUT houston in the starting lineup, out of position coming off an injury that slows him down is not a good idea.
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12/15/2004  4:16 PM
man, wallace and wallace?

if haywood abused us on the glass, these guys may just destroy us.
it's up to our perimeter defense and somebody to catch fire to prevent a blowout.
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12/15/2004  5:02 PM
I dont see why you want to play Houston at SF. He can barely defend SG's, asking him to defend SF's and then score on them on the other end is not a good idea. If you want to start Houston, start him at SG and bench Craw. Starting SF doesnt have to be JYD but Houston is not a good option and not the best option either.
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12/15/2004  5:21 PM
if we pull this off tonite against the DEFENDING CHAMPS, it'll def. be a confidence booster.

look for starbury to explode from the perimeter since taking the rock to the rim would be suicide, what with the 2 wallaces.

go knicks, go!
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12/15/2004  5:32 PM
2 hours and 20 mins to tip off. anyone have the starting lineup for tonites game?
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12/15/2004  6:25 PM
1 hr and 30 mins to tip off.
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12/15/2004  6:31 PM
Pistons are going down! Should be interesting...one of my friends happens to be a huge Detroit fan.

I'm saying Knicks win, 88-81
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12/15/2004  6:48 PM
I don't know about this for the Knicks. Back to back against Detroit? ehhh.. But since they're home Crawford will probably have a big night and Marbury will try and make up for yesterday. Too close to call imo
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12/15/2004  6:48 PM
I wish whatever Mike Sweetney's momma cooked for him before the game against the wiz could be sent to him to make him play
aggressive every game.

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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12/15/2004  6:54 PM
NY has been playing flat (shots just don't seem to fall, limited ball movement) during the latter of back to backs... Last game for detroit was a loss to memphis 68-72 on Saturday. Things don't look too good for a match up with Detroit, regardless of which team the crowd is rooting for.
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12/15/2004  6:56 PM
Will the game be blacked out on ESPN??
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12/15/2004  6:58 PM
Why would it be blacked out? It's supposed to be shown on ESPN, so I'm assuming it will be.
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12/15/2004  7:04 PM
this is a good test game in many areas. i dont expect a win because Detroit is pissed and had 4 days off. i do expect a game where we compete with a chance to win. this is a tough match up for craw with RIP on the D because of the post up game.
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12/15/2004  7:07 PM
Posted by MaTT4281:

Why would it be blacked out? It's supposed to be shown on ESPN, so I'm assuming it will be.
usually whenever the Knicks play at MSG and the game is nationally televised on ESPN its usually blacked out for the metropolitan area...im hoping this time its not cause its on ESPNHD
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12/15/2004  7:13 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

this is a good test game in many areas. i dont expect a win because Detroit is pissed and had 4 days off. i do expect a game where we compete with a chance to win. this is a tough match up for craw with RIP on the D because of the post up game.

they always put us on national TV when we don't have a chance and get embarassed
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12/15/2004  7:25 PM
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