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playa2
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12/14/2004  6:01 PM
According to NBA sources, the Cavaliers are stepping up their intensity in attempts to trade DeSagana Diop and Dajuan Wagner.

It is believed that they would take drafts picks in return, likely second-rounders. There isn't much of a market for the two struggling former first-round picks' services league-wide. Their best value is that both are on expiring contracts, both making $2.6 million this season, so they are salary-cap clearers.

I believe the guy is still young and maturing, at 22yrs old 7ft 280 he could learn alot from Aguirre. Diop and Sweetney future 4 and 5.

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12/14/2004  6:05 PM
send them Sundov & a second rounder for him then if they're that desperate.
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12/14/2004  6:27 PM
I would be all for it. Low risk trade.
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12/14/2004  6:54 PM
Cle will NOT be in the lottery. I would send them KT for Diop, Wagner and their 05 #1.
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12/14/2004  11:46 PM
We could get more for KT, but I like Wagner, he could be insurance for H20 and a possible craw trade.
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12/15/2004  8:00 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:

We could get more for KT, but I like Wagner, he could be insurance for H20 and a possible craw trade.
Good point since Craw is raising his trade bait status
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12/15/2004  8:09 AM
You have got to be kidding me??? Wagner is about 6'2", as the game is getting bigger at every position, why in the world would we even consider such a deal?????? After all, we would need for him to play the SG position. I can understand a deal for Diop, but not Wagner.


Posted by playa2:
Posted by Killa4luv:

We could get more for KT, but I like Wagner, he could be insurance for H20 and a possible craw trade.
Good point since Craw is raising his trade bait status
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12/15/2004  10:53 AM
Zeke would be foolish to stand Pat with this roster , another big is necessary.
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12/15/2004  10:56 AM
We all agree with that, but not with Wagner included. Unless we can get rid of Coochie in that trade. Kurt and Coochie for Wagner and Diop.

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Zeke would be foolish to stand Pat with this roster , another big is necessary.
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12/15/2004  11:00 AM
if we could get their #1 back that would be a nice piece moving forward. It would give us 6 months to evaluate Diop w/ Aguire. When you look at Nazr's progress over the last year its mind boggling how much progress he has made.

I havent seen a lot of Wagner because he never plays, but we also have no long term solution at backup PG. Wagner may be a nice piece there. Both are expiring so the commitment is minimal, but I would want that Cle pick coming back (something in the low 20s). I would love to draft 2 players that would allow me to let TT/Penny walk away and have their $30mm come off the books.
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12/15/2004  11:02 AM
Today is the 15th of December, a lot of things might happen by end of the day. Crawf is making a case for himself. I sure hope that he doesn't get traded to Toronto.
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12/15/2004  11:56 AM
It depends if Zeke is trying to win now.

He won't win in the playoffs with Craw, the guy would KILL US by shooting rainbows at the wrong time.

Right now he has the green light to do just that and I don't see him changing in the near future with these habits ....this is what he is known for.


I can see Vince at 27 helping us win NOW!
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12/15/2004  1:47 PM
whats Vince helping us win now? Is Vince the guy taking us to a title? Crawford has been pretty clutch and has already won 2 games on last minute shots for us.
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12/15/2004  6:34 PM
Fishy, has Craw sniffed a court in the playoffs ? Why do you think he would improve his shot selection in postseason?

Yea as a spectator, this guy would be worse than John Starks in the 7th game against the Rockets.
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12/15/2004  6:42 PM
jamal has a lot more talent
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12/15/2004  7:07 PM
Some said the same thing when we tradeD Oakley for Camby.

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