other guy? did you mean Kurt Thomas????? I don't see the need for Carter if we are not going to trade Houston. They are both 6'6" and both have bad knees. Someone will have to go. Personally, I would much rather see Houston go if we are going to bring in Carter. I would elect to keep TT, because he is long and soon or later will have to take pride and play some stellar D.

ISIAH: WE WON'T DEAL HOUSTON

By MARC BERMAN
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December 13, 2004 -- Isiah Thomas acknowledged Allan Houston won't be included in any potential Vince Carter trade. But Thomas made it seem like it's his call, not Toronto's, declaring he will not trade Houston.
Of course, that's absurd, considering Isiah left him unprotected in the expansion draft in June. Toronto is not interested and it's unlikely any team is because of the $58 million left on his contract combined with the health risk.

"There's been talk about trading Allan Houston," Isiah said. "That's not going to happen."

When asked is if it's because nobody wants his contract, Isiah said, "I like him. I want to see our team have a chance to play with him."

Houston's name came up in Carter talks, but the Raptors passed. Isiah made it sound he's squarely in the hunt for Carter.

"My job is to be interested in players, otherwise I wouldn't be doing my job," Isiah said. "I made a phone call to Karl Malone's agent. Did I reach out and try to make contact? Yes. Was he interested? No.

"When players are being talked about such as Vince Carter, my job is to be interested and see if I can find out what's going on. You don't have a deal until it's done."

Houston claims Isiah assured him he won't be dealt. Houston sounded skeptical.

"I am happy, but at the same time it's a business," Houston said.

And Isiah noted the Knicks aren't close to a title.

"That's not to say this is the team that's going to take us to the championship," said Thomas. "We've still got to get better."

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Isiah said it was his decision to activate Houston last Tuesday night, two games before he was ready.

"That was me," Isiah said, adding he wanted to give Houston "the option" of playing earlier.

"There wasn't anyone trying to pressure him," Isiah said.

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It was reported Dolan does not want allan moved. If isiah is going to try to get Carter he must do it by lowballing the market. he can do if he takes Rose and offers financial relief. Thats his best move.

I guess that's basically Jalen Rose and Mr. Glass for JYD, H20 and TT....but I really think TT is on the way back...10 points in 20 minutes works great for me. Last night, pretty much his numbers.

Since houston's return:
TT - 23 minutes, 9.5 pts, add this to Houstons 18 minutes and 8.5 points. whoever is hot, go with it...I can't see TT continuing to start though.

Posted by playa2:

Toronto only wants a star player in re-turn, they need to have a "NAME" to draw fans to the games.

Isn't Vince a sf?

Posted by diderotn:

This trade doesnt make any sense, especially if we don't include Houston in it. Who will be playing the SG position???? Crawf, Houston, Vince??? Who? If we trade TT, who will be our SF???? and please don't say Vince nor Houston.

Fans won't except TT and Penny, trust me!

Posted by diderotn:

In all actuality, I want to keep TT, but is he a true SF or a should be PF??????? Will we finally see what this guy is made off????

Like Fish said, he's more of a true SG trapped in a PFs body.

Nowitsky is soft also, but he is an all-star type PF/C.

Posted by diderotn:

Nowitsky is soft also, but he is an all-star type PF/C.

Now that is just crazy talk. Dirk averages 20.8 PPG, 8.40 RPG, 2.4 APG, 1.05 BPG for the regular season. In the playoffs he gets ludicrous. 25.6 PPG, 11 RPG, 1.9 APG, 1.08 BPG.

If that is soft then what does that make TT?

VC was a star. I think people need to realize that he no longer is a star. So the Knicks shouldn't give anyone that is considered a star for VC. I think TT is slightly worse than VC. Those two aren't that far off. They both seem lazy and not willing to do certain thing on the court at time.