Posted by Knicksfan:

I know it has nothing to do with Zo, but it do has to do with the big problem NY is having with the zone. Really, we don't need to make an emergency trade like that one for Zo. Some of you hate Houston because he didn't suit up last playoffs and at the start of this season. What will happen if Zo has to AGAIN call it quits and leave us with his contract. The last thing we need is another player not playing but earning big money from us. I prefere to stay put or sign a free agent with nothing to lose. A healthy Zo would help us, but a retired one will not. In the begining of the season when Nazr was terrible, if you wanted to win now, ok, make the deal if you wish, take the risk. But we don't need to do it to win now. The best thing Isiah can have now is patience, because down the road, a young big man will be avaliable and he could come up with him.

Get Allan healthy! Get this team together and see them grow! Even get Baker moving because he is doing nothing! Don't make more trades than you need to. And i said NEED TO...

If we get Zo by giving up someone who probably won't have a role on the team in the playoffs (Baker or Moochie), then there is no loss if Zo can't play in the playoffs. That's the worst case scenario--no net gain or net loss. It's not an emergency trade to give up a player you don't need to get a good role player who can help your team.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

I know it has nothing to do with Zo, but it do has to do with the big problem NY is having with the zone. Really, we don't need to make an emergency trade like that one for Zo. Some of you hate Houston because he didn't suit up last playoffs and at the start of this season. What will happen if Zo has to AGAIN call it quits and leave us with his contract. The last thing we need is another player not playing but earning big money from us. I prefere to stay put or sign a free agent with nothing to lose. A healthy Zo would help us, but a retired one will not. In the begining of the season when Nazr was terrible, if you wanted to win now, ok, make the deal if you wish, take the risk. But we don't need to do it to win now. The best thing Isiah can have now is patience, because down the road, a young big man will be avaliable and he could come up with him.

Get Allan healthy! Get this team together and see them grow! Even get Baker moving because he is doing nothing! Don't make more trades than you need to. And i said NEED TO...

If we get Zo by giving up someone who probably won't have a role on the team in the playoffs (Baker or Moochie), then there is no loss if Zo can't play in the playoffs. That's the worst case scenario--no net gain or net loss. It's not an emergency trade to give up a player you don't need to get a good role player who can help your team.

If the wort case scenario happened, it would be a loss because of his contract. Even if he did played well, it would hurt our intentions of dealing for a younger big man. We are in NY, but contracts still matter. Don't tell me you will not call it a loss if you had to have Zo's contract for three years and him not playing anything of it. We may lose nothing in terms of players, but we do move some steps back in our contracts situation ans in our future trades.

Posted by daddynel:

Posted by Knicksfan:

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Knicksfan:

I know it has nothing to do with Zo, but it do has to do with the big problem NY is having with the zone. Really, we don't need to make an emergency trade like that one for Zo. Some of you hate Houston because he didn't suit up last playoffs and at the start of this season. What will happen if Zo has to AGAIN call it quits and leave us with his contract. The last thing we need is another player not playing but earning big money from us. I prefere to stay put or sign a free agent with nothing to lose. A healthy Zo would help us, but a retired one will not. In the begining of the season when Nazr was terrible, if you wanted to win now, ok, make the deal if you wish, take the risk. But we don't need to do it to win now. The best thing Isiah can have now is patience, because down the road, a young big man will be avaliable and he could come up with him.

Get Allan healthy! Get this team together and see them grow! Even get Baker moving because he is doing nothing! Don't make more trades than you need to. And i said NEED TO...

If we get Zo by giving up someone who probably won't have a role on the team in the playoffs (Baker or Moochie), then there is no loss if Zo can't play in the playoffs. That's the worst case scenario--no net gain or net loss. It's not an emergency trade to give up a player you don't need to get a good role player who can help your team.

If the wort case scenario happened, it would be a loss because of his contract. Even if he did played well, it would hurt our intentions of dealing for a younger big man. We are in NY, but contracts still matter. Don't tell me you will not call it a loss if you had to have Zo's contract for three years and him not playing anything of it. We may lose nothing in terms of players, but we do move some steps back in our contracts situation ans in our future trades.

if i'm not misstaken his contract ends the same year houston's does. until then we're FUBAR'ed anyway.

Yup; it's a tiny contract with three years remaining and well worth the price. If we can afford to spend $8 mil on Moochie Norris, we can afford to take a gamble by paying the same amount to an athletic C who blocks 3 shots a game.

[Edited by - Bonn1997 on 12/05/2004 00:42:13]

This is why I didn't want Morning and still don't:

http://www.nypost.com/sports/nets/36098.htm

Baker, Brewer, Sundov and Houston's #2. With Zo coming out with this and still 3yrs left at 5-6mil. NJ probably would love to give him up for ending deals and 2nd rd picks.

Zo would be perfect for us. Inside D and shot blocking. Muhammad allows us not to depend on him either. Plus he makes NY more attractive for other players.

Get the Mailman already in a uni!!