I don't know what kind of threats you need to make to him for the waive of that no trade clause but I guess it starts by coming off the bench.

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1. GM James jones grabbing Ibisha's cell phone and blocking Isiahs calls from coming in.
2. Call OKC, Warriors and the Rockets about Durant. Create a market for him. Warriors are cap locked a bit more than the others.
3. Nets should make a call about Booker. A true star. Suns should listen.
4. Gonna have to eat **** and tread water on Beal. I don't know if the 7 year stretch is still available or its viable given the number is huge.
At some point they have have some capital to forward with Beal to take his deal. I believe any buy out would still be on their cap! They have a big problem!
Can they declare him at some point a medical exemption and shelve him legitimately?

Nets at least came within a toe of making finals (Vs Milwaukee)with its starphuch.

nycericanguy wrote:wow i had no idea PHO gave WSH 3 swaps. PHO had such a great thing going, star chasing just doesn't work anymore. Even as stacked and healthy as our top 6/7 is we still need more depth.

MIN also fumbled big time with that Rudy trade which led to moving KAT.

Minny could have built the same thing as the Knicks. Instead of targeting guys like OG and whatnot, they burned themselves TWICE with acquiring Gobert and then trading KAT

martin wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:wow i had no idea PHO gave WSH 3 swaps. PHO had such a great thing going, star chasing just doesn't work anymore. Even as stacked and healthy as our top 6/7 is we still need more depth.

MIN also fumbled big time with that Rudy trade which led to moving KAT.

Minny could have built the same thing as the Knicks. Instead of targeting guys like OG and whatnot, they burned themselves TWICE with acquiring Gobert and then trading KAT

And they doubled down on Rudy and extended him into his mid 30's and then traded KAT.

SHould have cut their losses and let him expire or trade him for whatever or dared him to test FAgency. and kept KAT. No one was going to pay a mid 30's Rudy a max deal.

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Alpha1971 wrote:Butler wants to go to the Suns, geezus

He and KD will look great playing 15 games per season together

Panos wrote:How many franchises have Durant and Harden burned at this point? Surprised teams are still willing to give assets for them.

I think Durant wanted out of BKN given his age and that Kyrie had really lost it for a while. Harden Could not stay healthy.
Nets got decent return for him. I don't think he burned them.

He did not burn the OKC as they could have traded him sooner. He sought his freedom and took the risks associated with it. He was a gift to the warriors so I don't think he burned them either. He won two titles with them and for what ever reasons he deemed important he left. BKN signed him with a torn Achilles and sat out the year. All up front. He played well for them nearly carrying them to the finals.
Harden and Kyrie burned a lot more bridges then Durant.
I know we all want to hate him but he took the risks and in the age of player empowerment used his earned privilege. I don't know how this season will go for him the rest of the way but in 25 games he has played his numbers are quite good. He is a savant and while not likable stays true to his craft.

Durant was not at the core of BKN's starphuch issues. Covid, Kyrie and Hardens inconsistency. Durant nearly carried them to finals alone. He played his ass off and came within a toe of doing so. That was the year Milwaukee was in finals and Warriors broke down. If that happend, BKN might have won the chip that year.

I don't particularly like Durant but have to respect his game and career. Lets be honest, if he signed with knicks we might think of him differently. Saying "BKN is COOL" was good theatre but he was trying to put his mark on a franchise that had yet to really make a name for itself. knicks at that juncture to sign him and sit him for a year, then have Kyrie pull that meltdown during covid would have been a disaster.

Im happy with how things turned out with Leon.

As for the suns? The Beal Deal was the true idiotic starphuch. They paid too much and that contract is a beast.

martin wrote:

Panos wrote:How many franchises have Durant and Harden burned at this point? Surprised teams are still willing to give assets for them.

Add in Paul George too?

Not really. Indy got Olidipo and Sabonis from OKC. Granted, Olidipo was really good but his injury was catastrophic.
But they got Sabonis, who was the 11th pick and proved to be an Allstar for a few years, then:Indiana receives:

Tyrese Haliburton
Buddy Hield
Tristan Thompson
Sacramento receives:

Domantas Sabonis
Justin Holiday
Jeremy Lamb
2023 second-round pick

Buddy played 158 games over three years, shot 40% from the three, and almost 16ppg. Indy did OK for a player on his contract year. Sabonis overplaying his draft position saved their ass.

Paul Burned the clippers who paid OKC big time to get Leonard to sign. Thats on them. Blame Philly for wooing him with that insane contract. $211mm!!!!
Clippers set themselves up for that burn by giving OKC Shai and other treasure for PG13.

Martin, Am IM missing something?