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5/28/2024  11:55 AM
Young Assets
- Deuce McBride
- Rokas Jokubaitus
- Jacob Toppin (developmental project)

Old Assets
- Bojan Bogdanovic (June 26th team option date)

Draft Picks
- 24
- 25
- 38

Team priorities
- Re sign OG Anunoby
- Re sign Isiah Hartenstein

Loose Ends
- Jalen Brunson extension eligible this offseason
- Julius Randle extension eligible Aug 3rd
- Alec Burks - Seems ripe for a vet min contract but but does he want guaranteed playing time)
- Precious Achiuwa

Trade Exceptions
- 3 (Toppin, Barrett & Flynn)

Guaranteed Contracts
- 6 (Randle, Brunson, DiVincenzo, Hart, Robinson & McBride)

Key Upcoming Dates
- Day After Last Game of NBA Finals: Each NBA team begins negotiating with free agents who finished the season on its roster.
- June 26: NBA Draft 2024 First Round
- June 27: NBA Draft 2024 Second Round
- June 30: Each NBA team may begin negotiating with all other upcoming free agents (beginning at 6 p.m. ET).
- July 6: Each NBA team may begin signing free agents to contracts (12:01 p.m. ET).

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5/28/2024  12:16 PM
All in one place - good job.

Agree first things first is getting OG and IHart signed. Of the two IHart more expendable despite OG’s brittleness. Would hate to see him go though.

After that there’s no clear moves. If they failed to sign one of the two then that creates a need. Guessing something happens with one or two of the draft picks. Hoping we bring in at least one rook.

Big trade? Anything is possible, but I expect a more or less stand pat approach with a little fine tuning. But we love it when they make moves!

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5/28/2024  12:36 PM
Worth noting that Precious is an RFA - they can basically decide to match what the market decides to pay him and can defer decision making on him to some degree till they determine what happens with Hartenstein.

Can't hate what he gave, but I wouldn't bee too proactive in trying to keep Precious unless the someone throws the huge bag at iHart or a big trade involving Mitch materializes. As a backup 4, 3rd center, he probably wouldn't have much of a path to minutes and that spot is probably better used on a rookie.

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5/28/2024  1:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/28/2024  1:07 PM
Great summary, let me add the core future draft picks past this year: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

2025 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Milwaukee
Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to New York protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or New York will thereafter be extinguished) (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2025 2nd round pick to New York protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Detroit's obligation to New York will be extinguished) [Detroit-New York, 7/11/2022]

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5/28/2024  4:01 PM
martin wrote:Great summary, let me add the core future draft picks past this year: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

2025 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Milwaukee
Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to New York protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or New York will thereafter be extinguished) (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2025 2nd round pick to New York protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Detroit's obligation to New York will be extinguished) [Detroit-New York, 7/11/2022]

Plus all our first rounders! Time was....

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5/28/2024  7:13 PM
KnickDanger wrote:
martin wrote:Great summary, let me add the core future draft picks past this year: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

2025 first round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-13 in 2025, 1-11 in 2026 and 1-9 in 2027; if Detroit has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2027, then Detroit will instead convey its 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Detroit-Houston, 11/24/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Milwaukee
Milwaukee's 2025 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selections 5-30 or to New York protected for selections 1-4 (Milwaukee's obligation to New Orleans or New York will thereafter be extinguished) (via New Orleans to Portland to Detroit to New York) [Denver-Milwaukee-New Orleans-Oklahoma City, 11/23/2020; New Orleans-Portland, 2/8/2022; Detroit-Portland, 7/6/2022; Detroit-New York, 7/6/2022]

2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Brooklyn
Brooklyn's 2025 2nd round pick to New York (via Atlanta) [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/13/2018; Atlanta-New York, 1/13/2022]

2025 second round draft pick from Detroit
Detroit's 2025 2nd round pick to New York protected for selections 31-55 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Detroit's obligation to New York will be extinguished) [Detroit-New York, 7/11/2022]

Plus all our first rounders! Time was....

Best guess on FRPs,

2024 - 2(NYK and Dallas)
2025 - 3(NYK, Wash and Bucks)
2026 - 2(NYK and Detroit)

Honestly can easily trade 4 of them and still have enough picks to refresh roster with yoots.

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5/28/2024  7:35 PM
Here is the date for OG

Anunoby can sign a contract extension worth $117 million over four years on June 30 – the six-month anniversary of his trade to the Knicks. He has a player option for 2024-25. He needs to decide on that player option by June 24 and can only extend if he exercises the player option for next season

https://sny.tv/articles/breaking-down-knicks-key-contract-decisions-offseason-og-anunoby-jalen-brunson#

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5/29/2024  8:28 AM
I legit do not know this: To sign a second round pick like Rokas, you need to use cap space or some exception like the bi-annual or MLE?

The Knicks are over cap, so they would need to use one of the exceptions that would hard cap you at the second apron? Is that the deal?

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5/29/2024  9:41 AM
martin wrote:I legit do not know this: To sign a second round pick like Rokas, you need to use cap space or some exception like the bi-annual or MLE?

The Knicks are over cap, so they would need to use one of the exceptions that would hard cap you at the second apron? Is that the deal?

Apparently there is a second round exception

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5/29/2024  3:14 PM
martin wrote:
martin wrote:I legit do not know this: To sign a second round pick like Rokas, you need to use cap space or some exception like the bi-annual or MLE?

The Knicks are over cap, so they would need to use one of the exceptions that would hard cap you at the second apron? Is that the deal?

Apparently there is a second round exception

I think that is a provision of the new CBA. Is it retroactive to unsigned second rounders from earlier drafts?

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BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:I legit do not know this: To sign a second round pick like Rokas, you need to use cap space or some exception like the bi-annual or MLE?

The Knicks are over cap, so they would need to use one of the exceptions that would hard cap you at the second apron? Is that the deal?

Apparently there is a second round exception

I think that is a provision of the new CBA. Is it retroactive to unsigned second rounders from earlier drafts?

I do not know. But I know how to Google like it's me JOB!

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/07/hoops-rumors-glossary-second-round-pick-exception.html

Like the rookie scale exception, the second-round pick exception isn’t limited to a single use. It can be deployed as many times as needed in a given league year.

The second-round exception can be used to sign a player to either a three-year contract that includes a third-year team option or a four-year contract that features a fourth-year team option. Here’s the year-by-year breakdown (option year in italics):

Year Salary
2023/24 $1,801,769
2024/25 $1,891,857
2025/26 $2,221,677
Total $5,915,303

As our chart of minimum salaries shows, in 2023/24, the maximum three-year salary for a contract with this structure would be about $5.9MM.

In 2023/24, the maximum four-year salary for a contract with this structure would be nearly $8.8MM. Here’s what it looks like from year to year (option year in italics):

Year Salary
2023/24 $2,019,706
2024/25 $2,120,693
2025/26 $2,221,677
2026/27 $2,406,205
Total $8,768,281

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5/29/2024  4:10 PM
martin wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
martin wrote:I legit do not know this: To sign a second round pick like Rokas, you need to use cap space or some exception like the bi-annual or MLE?

The Knicks are over cap, so they would need to use one of the exceptions that would hard cap you at the second apron? Is that the deal?

Apparently there is a second round exception

I think that is a provision of the new CBA. Is it retroactive to unsigned second rounders from earlier drafts?

I do not know. But I know how to Google like it's me JOB!

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2023/07/hoops-rumors-glossary-second-round-pick-exception.html

Like the rookie scale exception, the second-round pick exception isn’t limited to a single use. It can be deployed as many times as needed in a given league year.

The second-round exception can be used to sign a player to either a three-year contract that includes a third-year team option or a four-year contract that features a fourth-year team option. Here’s the year-by-year breakdown (option year in italics):

Year Salary
2023/24 $1,801,769
2024/25 $1,891,857
2025/26 $2,221,677
Total $5,915,303

As our chart of minimum salaries shows, in 2023/24, the maximum three-year salary for a contract with this structure would be about $5.9MM.

In 2023/24, the maximum four-year salary for a contract with this structure would be nearly $8.8MM. Here’s what it looks like from year to year (option year in italics):

Year Salary
2023/24 $2,019,706
2024/25 $2,120,693
2025/26 $2,221,677
2026/27 $2,406,205
Total $8,768,281

‘In 2024, Rokas Jokubaitis is expected to earn between €650,000 and €1.2 million a year with FC Barcelona.’

That’s in Euros and less than the min numbers you have listed. Makes a min contract range look about right for the nba

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5/29/2024  6:11 PM
Deuce is a keeper. He has become what IQ was but he’s even better, can run the point and he doesn’t disappear come playoff time
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Key Upcoming Dates
- Day After Last Game of NBA Finals: Each NBA team begins negotiating with free agents who finished the season on its roster.
- June 26: NBA Draft 2024 First Round
- June 27: NBA Draft 2024 Second Round
- June 30: Each NBA team may begin negotiating with all other upcoming free agents (beginning at 6 p.m. ET).
- July 6: Each NBA team may begin signing free agents to contracts (12:01 p.m. ET).


Teams with the most cap space

1 - Detroit - 72M

2 - Philadelphia - 58M

3 - Utah 44M

4 - Oklahoma City 39M

5 - San Antonio 34M

6 - Orlando 20M

7 - Charlotte 12M

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6/13/2024  10:15 AM
Knicks committed salary 106,118,760 + 2M if waiving Bogdanovic. 125,151,610 if Bogdanovic is not waived

Projected 2024/25 salary cap 141,000,000

Projection - Buh Bye Bogey. Knicks need to maintain a healthy salary cap

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6/13/2024  10:27 AM
Rookie wrote:Knicks committed salary 106,118,760 + 2M if waiving Bogdanovic. 125,151,610 if Bogdanovic is not waived

Projected 2024/25 salary cap 141,000,000

Projection - Buh Bye Bogey. Knicks need to maintain a healthy salary cap

This analysis fails to incorporate cap holds. I think staying below the first apron at $178mm and whether they elect to "hard cap" by using a S&T or an exception is the determination of "healthy", not whether the Knicks have cap space to be players in the FA market. Meaning, managing the spread between 144 and 178. Given the projections to increase the cap dramatically over the next several years, I think pushing salary towards 178mm is the correct economic move.

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6/13/2024  10:45 AM
EwingsGlass wrote:
Rookie wrote:Knicks committed salary 106,118,760 + 2M if waiving Bogdanovic. 125,151,610 if Bogdanovic is not waived

Projected 2024/25 salary cap 141,000,000

Projection - Buh Bye Bogey. Knicks need to maintain a healthy salary cap

This analysis fails to incorporate cap holds. I think staying below the first apron at $178mm and whether they elect to "hard cap" by using a S&T or an exception is the determination of "healthy", not whether the Knicks have cap space to be players in the FA market. Meaning, managing the spread between 144 and 178. Given the projections to increase the cap dramatically over the next several years, I think pushing salary towards 178mm is the correct economic move.

Good catch. Cap holds

- 24th pick - 2,278,100
- 25th pick - 2,186,700
- 38th pick - ?

Projected cost to retain FA's

-OG Anunoby - 38-40M
-iHart - 17M
-Achiuwa - 2M-5M

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6/13/2024  11:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/13/2024  11:12 AM
Philc1 wrote:Deuce is a keeper. He has become what IQ was but he’s even better, can run the point and he doesn’t disappear come playoff time

I think he can play the PG position but not run a team like a PG. His game is a SG who is too small to be a SG.

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6/13/2024  12:33 PM
Rookie wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
Rookie wrote:Knicks committed salary 106,118,760 + 2M if waiving Bogdanovic. 125,151,610 if Bogdanovic is not waived

Projected 2024/25 salary cap 141,000,000

Projection - Buh Bye Bogey. Knicks need to maintain a healthy salary cap

This analysis fails to incorporate cap holds. I think staying below the first apron at $178mm and whether they elect to "hard cap" by using a S&T or an exception is the determination of "healthy", not whether the Knicks have cap space to be players in the FA market. Meaning, managing the spread between 144 and 178. Given the projections to increase the cap dramatically over the next several years, I think pushing salary towards 178mm is the correct economic move.

Good catch. Cap holds

- 24th pick - 2,278,100
- 25th pick - 2,186,700
- 38th pick - ?

Projected cost to retain FA's

-OG Anunoby - 38-40M
-iHart - 17M
-Achiuwa - 2M-5M

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/new-york-knicks/cap/_/year/2024 This is about as good a summary as exists in the world.

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