BigDaddyG wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:There also needs to be some honesty here. Embiid is the reigning MVP. The NBA wants him to play. That means they will protect him on both sides of the ball. No one wants to see Paul Reed for 24 minutes.

Of course, you are so right. Let Embiid injure anyone on the other side, get away with murder and commit blatant flagrant fouls in front of the refs because the league is right, you need to protect Embiid. You are so right.

I don't care if Embiid ends up as the GOAT when his career is over and his knees are replaced with titanium. Fair is fair. A kick for a kick. A stomach punch for a stomach punch. There's physical and the there's plain dirty and Embiid crossed threshold tonight.

You thinking what I'm thinking?

NardDogNation wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:There also needs to be some honesty here. Embiid is the reigning MVP. The NBA wants him to play. That means they will protect him on both sides of the ball. No one wants to see Paul Reed for 24 minutes.

Of course, you are so right. Let Embiid injure anyone on the other side, get away with murder and commit blatant flagrant fouls in front of the refs because the league is right, you need to protect Embiid. You are so right.

I don't care if Embiid ends up as the GOAT when his career is over and his knees are replaced with titanium. Fair is fair. A kick for a kick. A stomach punch for a stomach punch. There's physical and the there's plain dirty and Embiid crossed threshold tonight.

You thinking what I'm thinking?

I'm down. Need to Nancy Kerrigan that bitch.

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One thing the refs can't do is help Draymond hit 3's or Embiid hit jumpers. Embiid's shooting tonight was a fluke. Let him continue to take those shots and live with the results. Brunson finally had a big game and the rest of the Knicks played well. I really don't like the IHart/ Embiid matchup. IHart was -24 tonight. He plays way too close to Embiid and has been burned twice already in the series on foul shots because of it.

It's actually better to have a smaller guy on Embiid because the NBA has always been loathe to call blocking fouls on little guys. Maybe put Brunson on Tyrese and then switch the pick and rolls. Let Embiid shoot over Brunson and you have four guys hit the boards. If Embiid drives, Brunson is quick enough to get positioning and is best in the league at drawing charges.

Despite the dirty play, 76ers still needed fluke shooting from Embiid, a bad 3 pt. foul from iHart, and wasted possessions down the stretch to win. 82 points for Philly in quarters 1,2, and 4 was solid.

Brunson finally got it going.
We lost ONE quarter last night.
Embid will get his but we can't let guys like Payne be the difference.
We win game 4 Sunday the odds for us winning go way up.

My only panic suggestion is for JB/staff to get other guys going. Philly made a point of involving players like Oubre and Payne on offense.

The game was ours when DDV stole the ball. We were surging and PHilly was mentally melting. Then he dribbpled it of mitches leg and oubre got it for an easy dunk. We lost momentum then. It happens. We had a good crowd in the arena and it was happening. Shame.

Outside of Embiids bad behavior he scored 50 points and PHilly beat us.

End of the day we up 2-1. He is the reigning MVP and leads the league getting to the FT by a wide margin. Not just this series, its his thing. Look it up. MVP get better treatment. Always been.
League conspiracy? Did we not win a game the other night on some controversy? Sure did!
Embiid is a bonafide A1 star. Brunson got his calls last night.
The take down foul? DIrty as hell. As announcer said he landed on his feet so not the god awful thing it could have been.
IM not saying I would be upset about him getting a 2 and tossed, not at all. But he did not.

Game was like tied then. Did we fail to deliver a knock out punch or did Phlly get it **** together in 2nd half and play a really good game and defeat us. Thats what I saw. Emiid played great. Dirty, but did what he had to and got away with it.
League did not make those shots.
League did not help him get a block. Not he did.
Frustrating but when this dude plays well they win.
I said it before, we only finished 3 games ahead of them and its because that big dude was injured for a long time.
Hate him all you want, but he is the best player on the floor and that puppy dog maxy is not far behind Jalen after that.

Game 4? Can’t stop Embiid, but Knicks have to figure a way to win.
I don’t care about what we did nor did not do in the regular season. Mitch was questionable before the game due to “injury management”.

Nalod wrote:Mitches ankle was a problem before the game started.

The game was ours when DDV stole the ball. We were surging and PHilly was mentally melting. Then he dribbpled it of mitches leg and oubre got it for an easy dunk. We lost momentum then. It happens. We had a good crowd in the arena and it was happening. Shame.

Outside of Embiids bad behavior he scored 50 points and PHilly beat us.

End of the day we up 2-1. He is the reigning MVP and leads the league getting to the FT by a wide margin. Not just this series, its his thing. Look it up. MVP get better treatment. Always been.
League conspiracy? Did we not win a game the other night on some controversy? Sure did!
Embiid is a bonafide A1 star. Brunson got his calls last night.
The take down foul? DIrty as hell. As announcer said he landed on his feet so not the god awful thing it could have been.
IM not saying I would be upset about him getting a 2 and tossed, not at all. But he did not.

Game was like tied then. Did we fail to deliver a knock out punch or did Phlly get it **** together in 2nd half and play a really good game and defeat us. Thats what I saw. Emiid played great. Dirty, but did what he had to and got away with it.
League did not make those shots.
League did not help him get a block. Not he did.
Frustrating but when this dude plays well they win.
I said it before, we only finished 3 games ahead of them and its because that big dude was injured for a long time.
Hate him all you want, but he is the best player on the floor and that puppy dog maxy is not far behind Jalen after that.

Game 4? Can’t stop Embiid, but Knicks have to figure a way to win.
I don’t care about what we did nor did not do in the regular season. Mitch was questionable before the game due to “injury management”.

Agreed that TO was a momentum killer.

0 chance NBA would've been ok with tossing Embid there even though it was some dirty ****.

Fact remains, as great as he is on O, Embid is a defensive liability and we saw something with Achiuwa late and w/ the IHart focus eary on. Need to leverage that Sunday and keep driving hard (hopefully without getting it poked away - lotta no calls) and attacking his slow footedness on D. Get his big ass tired. And on the defensive side, the Divo double on Embid was a good strategy; he just couldn't miss. They still had a tough time putting us away.

Onto Sunday then.

EwingsGlass wrote:Felt like Embiid was trying to hurt Mitch. I get pulling on a guy or sneaking a hand in (see Lowry on OG), but I do t get the sense Lowry is trying to hurt someone. Just using angles on what the refs can see.

Embiid kind of bounced on Mitch’s Knee. He pulled on Mitch’s legs. He’s got to cut it out. I don’t really care if he and Bam do that ****, but Mitch plays clean.

In any even, we knew there would be some makeup calls this game. 2-1. Still proud of this squad. OG, Precious, Mitch need to get angry and match DDV’s intensity. Let brawl.

Oh...he was trying to hurt IHart and Mitch last night. Fooker was after both of them. The problem is we have 2 really nice hard working guys. Not sure we can have them flip the switch and become Oakley and Mason all of a sudden.

DLeethal wrote:I wonder if Precious could actually help us mix things up a bit using a different type of body and defender on Embiid for stretches.

I think he should do better than IHart in defending Embiid in the perimeter. Precious stays down on pump fakes and long arms can at least block Embiids view to the basket. My only worry is when Embiid decides to take him down low. One thing we can do is deny Embiid the ball. Don't let him catch the ball anywhere in the court.

sealy wrote:

Nalod wrote:Mitches ankle was a problem before the game started.

The game was ours when DDV stole the ball. We were surging and PHilly was mentally melting. Then he dribbpled it of mitches leg and oubre got it for an easy dunk. We lost momentum then. It happens. We had a good crowd in the arena and it was happening. Shame.

Outside of Embiids bad behavior he scored 50 points and PHilly beat us.

End of the day we up 2-1. He is the reigning MVP and leads the league getting to the FT by a wide margin. Not just this series, its his thing. Look it up. MVP get better treatment. Always been.
League conspiracy? Did we not win a game the other night on some controversy? Sure did!
Embiid is a bonafide A1 star. Brunson got his calls last night.
The take down foul? DIrty as hell. As announcer said he landed on his feet so not the god awful thing it could have been.
IM not saying I would be upset about him getting a 2 and tossed, not at all. But he did not.

Game was like tied then. Did we fail to deliver a knock out punch or did Phlly get it **** together in 2nd half and play a really good game and defeat us. Thats what I saw. Emiid played great. Dirty, but did what he had to and got away with it.
League did not make those shots.
League did not help him get a block. Not he did.
Frustrating but when this dude plays well they win.
I said it before, we only finished 3 games ahead of them and its because that big dude was injured for a long time.
Hate him all you want, but he is the best player on the floor and that puppy dog maxy is not far behind Jalen after that.

Game 4? Can’t stop Embiid, but Knicks have to figure a way to win.
I don’t care about what we did nor did not do in the regular season. Mitch was questionable before the game due to “injury management”.

Agreed that TO was a momentum killer.

0 chance NBA would've been ok with tossing Embid there even though it was some dirty ****.

Fact remains, as great as he is on O, Embid is a defensive liability and we saw something with Achiuwa late and w/ the IHart focus eary on. Need to leverage that Sunday and keep driving hard (hopefully without getting it poked away - lotta no calls) and attacking his slow footedness on D. Get his big ass tired. And on the defensive side, the Divo double on Embid was a good strategy; he just couldn't miss. They still had a tough time putting us away.

Onto Sunday then.

There are 28 other coaches who try to figure out how to stop him. We do hate the great ones!
I thought iHart got some good looks with the floater in first half. They adjusted.
They too know what knicks are trying to do. Josh and OG did go right after him. Sometimes he did not foul but stayed on it with his lengh.
One time announcer said "Embiid understand losing the battle vs. winning the war". Something to that effect. Joel got his act together and became stoic and deadly.

WE did not lose the game last night, we were defeated. Philly was amp'd that they had let one slip away on monday and felt good.
We had them on the ropes in the first half. Embiid was melting down. 2nd half he killed it. He did not wear down, limp, and he hit shots he missed miserably the first two games. If he was in pain he did a better job of showing it.
I hated his act but had to respect the performance in the second half.
Knick fans want blood. They want restitution. Knick players want a win. Things are not always "fair". MVP's get free passes because they earned it on the way up.
Knicks have match what happened last night and exceed it.

Fans who thought embiid should sit? Or we will wipe them off the court, or will sweep need to adjust their expectations.
Want to direct that we too should have tanked to meet a lessor foe? if that makes you feel better so be it.
Philly with a healthy Embiid is likley the true 2nd seed talent wise.
Im not saying we lose by any stretch. IM saying its not gonna be a cake walk.
These teams are very closely matched. Enjoy it for what it is, not the outcome. You may not like it.

Knicks are all phucking business. Whatever the plan is it's going to involve being even MORE aggressive on both ends.

We need more from SG... neither DD/McBride gave us much scoring. Bojan's wrist looks like it's bothering him, although his hustle and energy look great. We need those 3 to get us some buckets.

I think we go without Mitch game 4-5 possibly. I also think when Precious plays the 5 we have a faster more athletic look and it works well at times.