DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:if we fall to 6th and play CLE that isn't the worst thing. does that mean we avoid BOS in 2nd round ?

It’s not a bad scenario at all. 2-3 in final 5 games and Knicks will be fine. Anywhere 4-5-6 is good.

yea not much of a difference between ORL, CLE and IND really. And if we can't get past those teams we were never going anywhere anyway.

So i'm not worried about seeding, this team even being within striking distance of #2 despite all the injuries is really amazing. Thibs deserves serious COTY consideration.

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:if we fall to 6th and play CLE that isn't the worst thing. does that mean we avoid BOS in 2nd round ?

It’s not a bad scenario at all. 2-3 in final 5 games and Knicks will be fine. Anywhere 4-5-6 is good.

yea not much of a difference between ORL, CLE and IND really. And if we can't get past those teams we were never going anywhere anyway.

So i'm not worried about seeding, this team even being within striking distance of #2 despite all the injuries is really amazing. Thibs deserves serious COTY consideration.

I honestly think teams are trying to avoid 2 and 3 right now with PHI and Miami lingering. MIL is playing like they’re tanking. CLE also looks like **** and Magic just got busted up by Charlotte. Winning 2 or 3 games is better than 4 or 5 for Knicks right now.

why do u think teams dont want to finish 2/3? to avoid MIA/PHI 1st round?

so 6th is probably better than 4/5 right?

While Donte has had his moments his defense is pretty atrocious - he gambles far too much and loses his man all the time.

If we assume Brunson, Josh, OG and I-Hart are 4 of the starters I think Deuces solid D and shooting is best fit because our starts have been very poor as well lately.

Pretty sure Deuce will be closing so keep him starting as well and stagger his / Jalen pg minutes.

Deuce D will be particularly important vs Cleveland and Indy guards - Orlando maybe less so.

Deuce and OG and Josh to a lesser degree allow us to match up well against most teams.

      EAST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Boston          61   16   0.792      -     W4    8-2     34-3   27-13   120.8   109.2   11.6   
2     Milwaukee       47   30    0.61     14     L3    4-6    29-10   18-20   119.9   116.8    3.1   
3     Cleveland       46   31   0.597     15     L1    4-6    24-14   22-17   112.6   109.9    2.7   
4     Orlando         45   32   0.584     16     L1    6-4    27-12   18-20   110.6   108.4    2.2   
5     New York        45   32   0.584     16     L1    5-5    25-14   20-18   112.3   107.9    4.4   
6     Indiana         44   34   0.564   17.5     W1    6-4    24-15   20-19   122.8   120.2    2.6   
7     Miami           43   34   0.558     18     W1    6-4    20-18   23-16   109.9   108.4    1.5   
8     Philadelphia    42   35   0.545     19     W3    5-5    22-16   20-19   114.2   112.0    2.2   
9     Chicago         37   40   0.481     24     W1    5-5    20-20   17-20   111.9   113.4   -1.5   
10    Atlanta         36   41   0.468     25     L1    6-4    21-18   15-23   118.8   120.0   -1.2   
11    Brooklyn        30   47    0.39     31     W1    4-6    18-20   12-27   111.2   113.7   -2.5   
12    Toronto         24   53   0.312     37     W1    1-9    13-26   11-27   112.4   118.6   -6.2   
13    Charlotte       19   58   0.247     42     W1    2-8    11-28    8-30   106.3   116.5  -10.2   
14    Washington      15   63   0.192   46.5     L2    4-6     7-33    8-30   113.3   122.7   -9.4   
15    Detroit         13   64   0.169     48     L3    1-9     7-32    6-32   110.4   119.3   -8.9   
      WEST             W    L     PCT     GB   STRK    L10     HOME    AWAY     PPG    OPPG   DIFF
      --------        --   --   -----   ----   ----   ----    -----   -----   -----   -----   ----
1     Minnesota       53   24   0.688      -     L1    7-3    28-10   25-14   112.8   105.8    7.0   
2     Denver          53   24   0.688      -     L1    6-4     31-8   22-16   114.3   109.6    4.7   
3     Oklahoma City   52   25   0.675      1     L3    5-5     29-8   23-17   119.8   113.4    6.4   
4     Los Angeles     49   28   0.636      4     W2    7-3    24-13   25-15   116.0   112.4    3.6   
5     Dallas          47   30    0.61      6     W2    9-1    24-15   23-15   118.2   115.7    2.5   
6     Phoenix         46   31   0.597      7     W3    7-3    25-14   21-17   116.6   113.5    3.1   
7     New Orleans     45   32   0.584      8     L4    4-6    21-18   24-14   115.0   110.6    4.4   
8     Sacramento      44   33   0.571      9     L2    5-5    23-15   21-18   116.8   115.6    1.2   
9     Los Angeles     44   33   0.571      9     W3    8-2    27-12   17-21   117.9   117.5    0.4   
10    Golden State    42   35   0.545     11     L1    7-3    19-19   23-16   117.8   115.5    2.3   
11    Houston         38   39   0.494     15     L4    6-4    26-14   12-25   113.9   112.9    1.0   
12    Utah            29   48   0.377     24    L11   0-10    20-19    9-29   116.0   120.8   -4.8   
13    Memphis         27   50   0.351     26     W3    4-6     9-28   18-22   106.0   112.6   -6.6   
14    Portland        21   56   0.273     32     W2    2-8    11-27   10-29   106.9   115.5   -8.6   
15    San Antonio     19   58   0.247     34     W1    5-5    10-28    9-30   112.1   119.0   -6.9   

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

DLeethal wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

NYStateOfMind wrote:We have OG on Derozan finally, so we double-team him, just dumb and give the open 3 to Vuc. OG should have been on him earlier, not Bogie and others. Gave this game away. 5 pts to start the 4th, immediately let it get to 10.

He banged multiple jumpers on OG before we started doubling

I remember 1 over OG - maybe there was another but DeRozan was completely under control with OG on him - Thibs took OG out and had Bogey guard him for about 4 or 5 easy buckets.

DD was taking over late when OG was in the game. Whether on him or not is irrelevant really with screens etc but it was to the point where the ball needed to come out of his hands down the stretch.

DD def got going against Bogs but who do you put on him during OG’s bench mins?

I mean... I dont know. Maybe I'm biased.

NYStateOfMind wrote:Not Bogey. Precious/McBride are 2 that come to mind, I agree get it out of DD's hands if he gets hot, but Bogey wasn't the answer and got him in the zone when mostly in check the 1st half, scored only 5 pts. If you are DD, don't you get pissed they have Bogey on him. Thibs lit the fuse which didn't need to be.

DLeethal wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

DLeethal wrote:

NYStateOfMind wrote:We have OG on Derozan finally, so we double-team him, just dumb and give the open 3 to Vuc. OG should have been on him earlier, not Bogie and others. Gave this game away. 5 pts to start the 4th, immediately let it get to 10.

He banged multiple jumpers on OG before we started doubling

I remember 1 over OG - maybe there was another but DeRozan was completely under control with OG on him - Thibs took OG out and had Bogey guard him for about 4 or 5 easy buckets.

DD was taking over late when OG was in the game. Whether on him or not is irrelevant really with screens etc but it was to the point where the ball needed to come out of his hands down the stretch.

DD def got going against Bogs but who do you put on him during OG’s bench mins?

CHI played Drummond and Vuc down the stretch which is why we went double big with Precious and iHart.