Philc1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:To me the concerns are more about the Knicks medical staff right now. A lot of flip flopping and they don’t seem to have a good grasp of the players injuries.

Randle’s injury looked really bad when it happened. The next day they were like “maybe he’ll be back in 4 weeks”

Not even close to what happened. The Knicks did not say a thing until a few days passed after the trade deadline. Injury on January 27th. Trade Deadline was February 8th. After the trade, next day they disclosed the full nature of the injury and the hope he can return if surgery is not needed.
Leon did not want to get fleeced at trade deadline any more than needed.

Its not that the medical staff "Flip flops" so much as what is made public and when. Lets not confuse what fans are informed of as the line of communication and judge if they are competent based on what we know.

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:To me the concerns are more about the Knicks medical staff right now. A lot of flip flopping and they don’t seem to have a good grasp of the players injuries.

Randle’s injury looked really bad when it happened. The next day they were like “maybe he’ll be back in 4 weeks”

Not even close to what happened. The Knicks did not say a thing until a few days passed after the trade deadline. Injury on January 27th. Trade Deadline was February 8th. After the trade, next day they disclosed the full nature of the injury and the hope he can return if surgery is not needed.
Leon did not want to get fleeced at trade deadline any more than needed.

Its not that the medical staff "Flip flops" so much as what is made public and when. Lets not confuse what fans are informed of as the line of communication and judge if they are competent based on what we know.

Whatever you say Nalod

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39416025/sources-optimism-knicks-julius-randle-weeks-not-months

So your still backing that the medical staff flip flopped?

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martin wrote:

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These guy had no clue either.
TNT last night said Randle had a setback a month ago, the shoulder popped out and it was back to square one.

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This could could've played on one arm and been Ben Simmons on offense and added a ton of value - just playing D for the last 4-5 mins of a few of those close games we dropped. I'm not faulting him for not playing, but we can see how when it gets to the playoffs if he's banged up and can just tough it out even for a few stretches how it tips the balance for us.

I keep wondering if we traded for him knowing about the elbow. This clearly was a pre-existing injury that amped up after the 12-13 games. My guess is we wanted to make this trade any way to have the advantage of re-signing him. But in retrospect now I'm understanding the interest in Bruce Brown. In my head, I kept thinking why would we replicate Josh Hart instead of getting another ballhandler like Brogdon. Now I think we were thinking about OG being out for a stretch and how we actually could have used 2 Harts since he had to play 48 minutes a night. Obviously Brown instead of Burks/Bogey over that stretch would've given us an additional defender with some 3 ability to shoot 3's and the only other smallish wing in the NBA that can board with Josh.

gradyandrew wrote:The biggest factor in what kind of salary he gets is how much another team is willing to offer him.So far Detroit stands as the biggest threat with almost no forwards and 70 million in space. I'm not sure if OG at 30 million is a luxury they can afford; 30 missed games per year puts them squarely in the draft lottery with no hope of getting out. Tobias Harris is probably a better choice because they need volume scoring.

I disagree with the "what we gave up to get him" argument. RJ had a negative value contract and IQ was likely a goner in free agency. Ideally OG picks up his player option and gets a four year extension. For an injury prone guy, the contract years are probably more important.

I predict that Detroit uses their top 3 lotto pick to trade for KAT. Makes sense for both orgs. Minny on pace to be in luxury tax jail. They can instead move foreword with a blue-chip prospect on a rookie scale contract. They also have Naz Reid already on deck. They can net Conley's successor. Pistons can secure a proven stud who will fit with Cade, Duren, Ivey, Thompson, Stewart core.

newyorknewyork wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:The biggest factor in what kind of salary he gets is how much another team is willing to offer him.So far Detroit stands as the biggest threat with almost no forwards and 70 million in space. I'm not sure if OG at 30 million is a luxury they can afford; 30 missed games per year puts them squarely in the draft lottery with no hope of getting out. Tobias Harris is probably a better choice because they need volume scoring.

I disagree with the "what we gave up to get him" argument. RJ had a negative value contract and IQ was likely a goner in free agency. Ideally OG picks up his player option and gets a four year extension. For an injury prone guy, the contract years are probably more important.

I predict that Detroit uses their top 3 lotto pick to trade for KAT. Makes sense for both orgs. Minny on pace to be in luxury tax jail. They can instead move foreword with a blue-chip prospect on a rookie scale contract. They also have Naz Reid already on deck. They can net Conley's successor. Pistons can secure a proven stud who will fit with Cade, Duren, Ivey, Thompson, Stewart core.

Oh wow, great idea

Can we all do the voodoo magic thing and make this happen so that the Knicks get their 1st next year or the year after?